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JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
I'm typing that I can understand where Alban Berg is coming from,
maybe he can watch that Quebec movie about people who get off on being in car crashes and making love,
in the midst of all that carcophony and mayhem.
That would be getting atonal with an almost tunnel vision.
Jim Morrison of The Doors used to get into car crashes with his wife in almost every city he played.
Jimi Hendrix wrecked two Corvettes one summer.
If I lose it in a vehicle, you'll hear about someone who hit a cathedral and took out a big organ.

Sounds to me as if too much happy baccy is involved, what idiots
A big organ :grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:
 
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John Watt

Member
Alban Berg! Thanks for, not correcting, but updating me.
When talk of Schoenberg and his music first percolated in my brain, being atonal was where it was at.
Even jazz musicians could be atonal, back then. Of course, being a Hendrix fan as a youth,
I was into semi-hemi-demis, quavering right away, half and quarter tones too, some eighths, but especially microtones,
considering how loud and transitory they can be.

You new descriptors for atonal music are interesting, and definitely worth having as genres.

White Knight! Thanks for the Crash reference. I think the Quebec director was Claude Jutra, and whoever it was,
he had his wife star in the movie, a good-looking actress. Film-makers! Imagine having a good time, making a movie.
They should be more serious about our future viewings.

Now I'm starting to understand the previous duck inferences.
I need some quack.
 

John Watt

Member
Alban! Alban! Wake up! You should hear the discord coming through your window, or t.v.!

Je ne sais pas tout les mots, mais, bon temps dans ton dormi.
 

Alban Berg

Banned
Well

Alban! Alban! Wake up! You should hear the discord coming through your window, or t.v.!

Je ne sais pas tout les mots, mais, bon temps dans ton dormi.

I prefer to ignore some comments...I listen a lot of music but I also like to read a lot...and...well..Maybe the discord is coming and I prefer to think that everybody is nice here.

Unpluged ears for electrical words....I don't think everybody loves me but I think some people like me here too. Maybe not you.

I didn't understand your French....I'm sorry.

Respectful

Martin
 

John Watt

Member
White Knight! Yes, thanks for tweaking my brain. It's difficult sometimes to change gears from musical thoughts to the film industry. I'm surprised a science fiction writer came up with the "Crash" scenario, a real time thing.

Alban Berg! Why have doubts about whether I like you or not. Isn't it obvious?
Why would I even bother typing to someone if they're not at least interesting?
We're both musicians, that's good enough for me, right now.

And as a man living in Quebec, you're not even native, just moving there.
And you're not even bilingual, speaking lots of languages, so you're not a Francophony.
Yeah, I was less than four feet away from Pierre Trudeau when he was Prime Minister,
but I didn't even hold out my hand to shake it.
I'd shake your hand, and I'd like to visit, if you invite me over for supper, er, soupe. Nyet?

My previous "French"? I don't know all the words, but, have a good time in your sleep.
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
I was into semi-hemi-demis, quavering right away, half and quarter tones too, some eighths, but especially microtones,
considering how loud and transitory they can be..

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well 1/4 tones would be as in Indian music (Asian) but 1/8 and micro (what is a micro tone) what music system has these ? and they would only be playable on a fret less string instrument or a musical saw or Trombone and not to any degree of accuracy, I think my ears would rebel
 

John Watt

Member
J.H.C.! So far, I can't disagree with your assessments. I tried making detachable frets for my guitar, like a sitar,
enabling that raga sound, so I can agree with your Indian influence.
Quarter, half and eighth tones are genuine notes caused by bending pitch, strings on a guitar.
But when I'm talking microtones, I'm talking about a specific electrical trail generated by electrically driven effects,
automatically created by a distortion enabled by a microtone. If we were talking computers,
I'd continue by typing that each individual byte of these visuals can be deleted or altered individually,
what computers can control, not like the microtones I'm using, occurring naturally,
just needing to be controlled by overlaying other microtones that buffer the feedback flow.

It's one thing to be in tune, be tonal, be twelve tone, and bend notes.
Being microtonal is musical on an atomic level, an extra dimension that uplifts any composition,
if you have an instrument with scientific, harmonic tuning, for each note.
It's one thing to resonate with other musicians, it's another to resonate through your earthly environment,
and musically, that makes me want to rebel.
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
So it's rock etc that has these (1/8 and micro) + some jazz ??
 

John Watt

Member
I'd have to admit that microtones are a basic building block for any tone or pitch,
but with electronic amplification, they can become a dominant sound in themselves.
"Bending" any note exposes the listener to microtones, and acoustically, they just fade away.
But electronic feedback, or capturing them digitally, can allow them to emit as sound in a controllable way.
But that's like trying to capture a comet, you can't, but you can buffer it with various means,
so you can aim it through your speakers, where hopefully, it creates a wanted noise.

Using a mechanical device to detune my guitar, having a floating tuning, works best.
When microtones are feeding back, perfect pitch enables a linear, one-dimensional expression,
but slight detuning compresses their propogation, and feeding additional microtonal feedback can be a buffer.
Please, think of the signal from an electric instrument as a comet going along a wire.
It's not a note those magnets and electricity are generating, but a coalesced atomic bundle.
You can imagine it as rubbing off, losing electrons, along the sides.
You can see it as having a leading edge, that loses mass as it pushes its way through the wire.
And even the trail, the last section of the sound "envelope", is a tone generator through your amp.

Different effects make this occur differently, and it all goes back to Jimi Hendrix being a military radar operator,
and inventing phase shifting and flanging, amongst other sound generators, for his electric guitar and recording studio.
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
I can't see how anything can be one dimensional, and re "rubbing off, losing electrons, along the sides." do you mean decaying?? which all noise does? however you are a guitar expert and I would not challenge your area of expertise.
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
Translated it reads: I am a mental retard............
 

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Anyone care to explain what grammar system is used to conjugate the verbs and decline the nouns in the above language?:grin:
 

teddy

Duckmeister
Verbs are grown in the garden and used in stews and nouny is what I used to call my grandmother. Hope that clears things up for you Colin.

teddy
 
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