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teddy

Duckmeister
Anyone agree that, leaving pops and hisses aside, you get a much nicer sound from vinyl than CDs. I believe they were (are) recorded on a wide range.

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Dorsetmike

Member
Vinyl are analogue, main limitation is the range between softest and loudest passages, you can only make the grooves to a certain depth: AFAIK CDs are all digital and there will be some losses in the conversion to digital. The higher the sampling rate the nearer digital is to the original sound. There is usually some compromise with digital, the higher the sampling rate the larger the resultant file hence less playing time on a CD, with broadcast higher sampling rates require more bandwidth, so less channels available.

That's my understanding of it anyway.
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
Mike, teddy have you heard HDCD? I have not but believe it has not been taken up by many consumers (I could be wrong) this among other considerations is why I am not sure which way to go about replacing my CD player, I think vinyls sound excellent on a top notch TT, but unless you have bottomless pockets a CD is as near to the original sound
 

teddy

Duckmeister
I think that I would have to be pretty certain that the new fornat was definitive before I laid out mega bucks. Add to rhat my failing hearing and it reduces the desirability of HD even more

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Dorsetmike

Member
I would disagree with the need for mega bucks now, my Technics set up although not top of the range only cost me £60 second hand, so many people now seem to be disposing of quality kit as we knew it a few years back to invest in surround sound and similar fripperies, or some of the "mini Hi Fi" sets that are available under pressure from the "not the in thing/it takes too much space/too fiddly to operate" schools of current thought.
 

teddy

Duckmeister
We used to have three decent secondhand hifi shops within striking distance but now there are none. The nearest shop that sells equipment, not counting places like currys, is 15 miles away and only sells B&O. And that is mega bucks. Apart from that its the local papers or general second hand stores. Very hard to find some one to talk technicalities with.

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Dorsetmike

Member
Tye place I bought mine from is more like a modern version of a pawn shop people take things in to get a short term cash advance and ideally get it back within a month paying a fair chunk of interest if they don't redeem within 2 months it's sold, others just sell stuff outright. Either way some good things often sell cheaply, cameras, audio and TV. tools, musical instruments, mobile phones, computers and peripherals and loads of CDs.

They even give a warranty which varies between 30 days and 6 months depending on the item.
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
So what is the position regarding HDCD? I realise that a new player would be retro capable but has it caught on in the UK?????
 

teddy

Duckmeister
As far as I know Colin it has not reached our shores yet. I think they are all trying to sell HD TVs and digital radios at the moment ready for when we lose our analouge service in a year or two. They probably do not want to distract the market. I have just seen the first 3D camcorder over here, price £1350.00. I expext HDCD will be launched just before Christmas to maximise on the additional spending that occurs at that time. Anyway I am never first in the que as I like to see what bugs are present before I buy. Not to mention being mean and awaiting the discount/secondhand market like Mike.

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JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
I am surprised that they are not in the UK they must have been around for at least 6yrs or more they are in NZ but around the $50+ mark and for some reason not promoted (std CD from $5+) I reckon they they will die, none of our local music group has any in their collection, how about the US of A anyone know?
 

teddy

Duckmeister
Colin

If they are 10 times the price of ordinary CDs that is why we do not see them over here. We nearly always have to pay more than any other country so that would push the cost up even more. The average person does not know how to site their speakers correctly for optimum effect, so any advantage from the increased technology would be lost. Add to that the iinfluences of furnishings in the average room and you are almost certainly wasting your time and money. I know that a good set of headphones can produce excellent sound reproduction but in my opinion it is not as good as listening to music from speakers.

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JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
teddy std CDs can go up to $25-28 in NZ but even at that price I think the HDCD is fighting an uphill battle
 
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