The User Titles Discussion
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Re: The User Titles (\"Ranks\") On This Forum
Indeed it is of interest.
I did do a little research before making the titles, and I'm aware of the Petty Officers, but it was my impression that the being petty officer is not a requisite before becoming an officer, but I maybe wrong about that?
I thought that "Petty Officers" was like a line in itself with many petty officer ranks or "classes". In the US there are also: "Senior Chief Petty Officers", "Master Chief Petty Officers", "Command Master Chief Petty Officers" and even a "Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy". So my impression was that after being a seaman, one could either become petty officer or officer?
Even though the titles are all just in good fun
, I'm very interested in getting the ranks "correct", so help pointing out errors is welcomed!
Indeed it is of interest.
I did do a little research before making the titles, and I'm aware of the Petty Officers, but it was my impression that the being petty officer is not a requisite before becoming an officer, but I maybe wrong about that?
I thought that "Petty Officers" was like a line in itself with many petty officer ranks or "classes". In the US there are also: "Senior Chief Petty Officers", "Master Chief Petty Officers", "Command Master Chief Petty Officers" and even a "Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy". So my impression was that after being a seaman, one could either become petty officer or officer?
Even though the titles are all just in good fun
KBOC
New member
Re: The User Titles (\"Ranks\") On This Forum
Petty Officers are enlisted, they are the equivelent of Corporals and Sergeants in land units.
CPOs are congressionally approved (in the U.S.) to be senior NCOs.
In the U.S. the ratings are thus (for Enlisted)
Seaman Recruit
Seaman Apprentice
Seaman
Petty Officer 3rd Class
Petty Officer 2nd Class
Petty Officer 1st Class
Chief Petty Officer
Senior Chief Petty Officer
Master Chief Petty Officer
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy (only one holds this rate).
Officers Ranks (very Rank indeed...)
Ensign
Lieutenant Junior Grade
Lieutenant
Lieutenant Commander
Commander
Captain
Commodore
Rear Admiral
Vice Admiral
Admiral
Petty Officers are enlisted, they are the equivelent of Corporals and Sergeants in land units.
CPOs are congressionally approved (in the U.S.) to be senior NCOs.
In the U.S. the ratings are thus (for Enlisted)
Seaman Recruit
Seaman Apprentice
Seaman
Petty Officer 3rd Class
Petty Officer 2nd Class
Petty Officer 1st Class
Chief Petty Officer
Senior Chief Petty Officer
Master Chief Petty Officer
Master Chief Petty Officer of the Navy (only one holds this rate).
Officers Ranks (very Rank indeed...)
Ensign
Lieutenant Junior Grade
Lieutenant
Lieutenant Commander
Commander
Captain
Commodore
Rear Admiral
Vice Admiral
Admiral
Re: The User Titles (\"Ranks\") On This Forum
Thanks. Overall I think I'll leave the "ranks" mostly as they are for now - as the mix between "US Navy" and British "Royal Navy" they are. (comparision chart here).
The idea being that before becoming officer "candidate/cadet" (or Midshipman) one must have taken time "enlisted" as "Seaman" for 25 posts...
Adding Petty Officers as well would make the system too complex, and potentially confusing, I think.
Thanks. Overall I think I'll leave the "ranks" mostly as they are for now - as the mix between "US Navy" and British "Royal Navy" they are. (comparision chart here).
The idea being that before becoming officer "candidate/cadet" (or Midshipman) one must have taken time "enlisted" as "Seaman" for 25 posts...
Bud Fields
New member
Re: The User Titles (\"Ranks\") On This Forum
That's the trouble with ranks--someone feeling inferior/superior to someone else. It's fun, and it's friendly, and it's an efficient way to evaluate the significance of the forums. Any rank beyond "Friend" is superfluous.
I think it's great fun, personally. And, as a retired officer from the United States Army, it's a hoot.
That's the trouble with ranks--someone feeling inferior/superior to someone else. It's fun, and it's friendly, and it's an efficient way to evaluate the significance of the forums. Any rank beyond "Friend" is superfluous.
I think it's great fun, personally. And, as a retired officer from the United States Army, it's a hoot.
Re: New titles! Anyone offended? Then shu...speak up ;
Just a reminder that the titles will be updated on December 15th*. Since everybody will keep the ranks they have "earned" up until that point, I recommend posting a little extra to get the rank you want before the change takes place (after that it will take somewhat longer to reach the different ranks).
After the 15th, the titles will look like this:
0 = Skulker
1 = Recruit, Pianissimo
5 = Apprentice, Piano
10 = Seaman, Mezzoforte
25 = Midshipman, Forte
Officers (with access to the "Officers' Mess"):
50 = Ensign, Principal
75 = Lieutenant, Associate Concertmaster
100 = Lieutenant Commander, Concertmaster
150 = Commander, Assistant Conductor
250 = Captain [of Water Music*]
Flag Officers (with access to the "Flag Officers' Council & Lounge"):
500 = Commodore [con Forza**]
1000 = Rear Admiral [Appassionata**]
2500 = Vice Admiral [Virtuoso**]
5000 = Admiral [Maestoso**]
10000 = 5 Star Music Admiral [+always custom title**]
* Note: I may pospone the change a few days because the software switch is getting closer and for technical reasons it will be best to do the title-change after switching the software.
Just a reminder that the titles will be updated on December 15th*. Since everybody will keep the ranks they have "earned" up until that point, I recommend posting a little extra to get the rank you want before the change takes place (after that it will take somewhat longer to reach the different ranks).
After the 15th, the titles will look like this:
0 = Skulker
1 = Recruit, Pianissimo
5 = Apprentice, Piano
10 = Seaman, Mezzoforte
25 = Midshipman, Forte
Officers (with access to the "Officers' Mess"):
50 = Ensign, Principal
75 = Lieutenant, Associate Concertmaster
100 = Lieutenant Commander, Concertmaster
150 = Commander, Assistant Conductor
250 = Captain [of Water Music*]
Flag Officers (with access to the "Flag Officers' Council & Lounge"):
500 = Commodore [con Forza**]
1000 = Rear Admiral [Appassionata**]
2500 = Vice Admiral [Virtuoso**]
5000 = Admiral [Maestoso**]
10000 = 5 Star Music Admiral [+always custom title**]
* Note: I may pospone the change a few days because the software switch is getting closer and for technical reasons it will be best to do the title-change after switching the software.
giovannimusica
Commodore de Cavaille-Coll
Re: The User Titles (\"Ranks\") On This Forum
Dear KBOC,
You forgot Admiral of the Fleet(5-stars) - yes, it's only a wartime rank, but still, fair is fair. According to my source at Navy BUPERS, the U.S. Congress re-authorized that rank after 9/11.
No offense, eh?
Giovanni
Dear KBOC,
You forgot Admiral of the Fleet(5-stars) - yes, it's only a wartime rank, but still, fair is fair. According to my source at Navy BUPERS, the U.S. Congress re-authorized that rank after 9/11.
No offense, eh?
Giovanni
Bud Fields
New member
Re: The User Titles (\"Ranks\") On This Forum
I have a rank!!
I have a rank!!
So, thus the infamy begins!!
Congratulations on the hard work on the site, guys. It's looking better all the time!
Soli Deo Gloria!
I have a rank!!
I have a rank!!
So, thus the infamy begins!!
Congratulations on the hard work on the site, guys. It's looking better all the time!
Soli Deo Gloria!
giovannimusica
Commodore de Cavaille-Coll
Re: The User Titles (\"Ranks\") On This Forum
Hi Gareth,
Remember - Starfleet Command uses Naval Rank
Giovanni
Btw - A *few* planes and Naval Aviators perish at sea during Carrier Operations - not because they are bad aviators - because their mission is inherently dangerous - when one *shoots* and traps aircraft day in and day out, you quickly get alot of respect for the guys who fly for the navy and those manning the catapults and arresting cables - Don't ever *dial in* the weight of an F-14 Tomcat for an F-18 Hornet - what happens? You'll rip the tail-end off the aircraft and the plane goes into the sea - conversely, F-18 weight for an F-14 and the aircraft goes directly into the sea, although new appurtenances are coming on-line to catch aircraft in trouble.
Hi Gareth,
Remember - Starfleet Command uses Naval Rank
Giovanni
Btw - A *few* planes and Naval Aviators perish at sea during Carrier Operations - not because they are bad aviators - because their mission is inherently dangerous - when one *shoots* and traps aircraft day in and day out, you quickly get alot of respect for the guys who fly for the navy and those manning the catapults and arresting cables - Don't ever *dial in* the weight of an F-14 Tomcat for an F-18 Hornet - what happens? You'll rip the tail-end off the aircraft and the plane goes into the sea - conversely, F-18 weight for an F-14 and the aircraft goes directly into the sea, although new appurtenances are coming on-line to catch aircraft in trouble.
acciaccatura
Guest
No thanks, no ranks 4 me
Please, let me become a proud deserter from this unpleasant, americanized sea beast
- a true civilian and anti-war activist, I must take issue with luring innocent people into your military hierarchy.
No doubt, this board could use some anarchist chaos in this preposterous naval circus!
Please, let me become a proud deserter from this unpleasant, americanized sea beast
giovannimusica
Commodore de Cavaille-Coll
Re: No thanks, no ranks 4 me
Hi acciaccatura,
This is not an american forum - it's International! The Danes have a wonderful seafaring tradition of which they are justifiably proud of. If one works as a sailor in the Merchant Marine there is always someone who will have a greater rank than you do. You have your basic seaman and all other ranks leading to the top as captain or in some other firms as admiral.
I think Mr. Magle is not intentionally *militarising* this site - he is the owner and he sets the rules - on the sea the captain's word is law. In the Merchant Marine if a deckhand does not obey the captain, that deckhand is put into the brig. Let me put it in another way: take part in the myriad discussions on this site - work up through the ranks and you too might make captain or above.
Above all, this is a fun site - the rank designations can be viewed as an indicator of how much you contribute - not of your military prowess - lighten up - life's too short to get bogged down in minutiae.
Peace and Blessings Aplenty,
Giovanni
ps. Hey, I bet this site could use Russian or Chinese military ranks (ready to learn a foreign language and it's peoples traditions?) I, myself speak read and write Russian and Chinese so no problems there or we can use Starfleet ranks - maybe Klingon ranks or Romulan ranks or...
pps. Denmark has Maersk - International Reach - someone is deckhand, someone is captain...
Hi acciaccatura,
This is not an american forum - it's International! The Danes have a wonderful seafaring tradition of which they are justifiably proud of. If one works as a sailor in the Merchant Marine there is always someone who will have a greater rank than you do. You have your basic seaman and all other ranks leading to the top as captain or in some other firms as admiral.
I think Mr. Magle is not intentionally *militarising* this site - he is the owner and he sets the rules - on the sea the captain's word is law. In the Merchant Marine if a deckhand does not obey the captain, that deckhand is put into the brig. Let me put it in another way: take part in the myriad discussions on this site - work up through the ranks and you too might make captain or above.
Above all, this is a fun site - the rank designations can be viewed as an indicator of how much you contribute - not of your military prowess - lighten up - life's too short to get bogged down in minutiae.
Peace and Blessings Aplenty,
Giovanni
ps. Hey, I bet this site could use Russian or Chinese military ranks (ready to learn a foreign language and it's peoples traditions?) I, myself speak read and write Russian and Chinese so no problems there or we can use Starfleet ranks - maybe Klingon ranks or Romulan ranks or...
pps. Denmark has Maersk - International Reach - someone is deckhand, someone is captain...
acciaccatura
Guest
Re: No thanks, no ranks 4 me
If you take a closer look, you will find a few smileys in my post... which was supposed to exercise a modicum of sarcasm... I regret if said sarcasm has been lost on readers...
Well, the truth is that I DO dislike military ranks, and for that reason I shall ask to be relieved from service... and I find it commendable that the forum leader has provided this opportunity
If you take a closer look, you will find a few smileys in my post... which was supposed to exercise a modicum of sarcasm... I regret if said sarcasm has been lost on readers...
Well, the truth is that I DO dislike military ranks, and for that reason I shall ask to be relieved from service... and I find it commendable that the forum leader has provided this opportunity
giovannimusica
Commodore de Cavaille-Coll
Re: No thanks, no ranks 4 me
Hi acciaccatura,
No sarcasm has been lost on this reader
Do keep up your posting however - are you playing any interesting piano compositions?
Peace And Blessings,
Giovanni
Hi acciaccatura,
No sarcasm has been lost on this reader
Do keep up your posting however - are you playing any interesting piano compositions?
Peace And Blessings,
Giovanni
Re: No thanks, no ranks 4 me
As you wish, you are now a civilian
Please, let me become a proud deserter from this unpleasant, americanized sea beast- a true civilian and anti-war activist, I must take issue with luring innocent people into your military hierarchy.No doubt, this board could use some anarchist chaos in this preposterous naval circus!
As you wish, you are now a civilian
acciaccatura
Guest
Re: No thanks, no ranks 4 me
Ah, cool - and now on to blowing up stuff!!!
Ah, cool - and now on to blowing up stuff!!!