Olympics Beijing 08.08.08

Mat

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I watched today. And the golden medal goes to Poland. Bravo, Tomasz Majewski. :cheers:
 

marval

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Yes well done to him.

I watched the cycling, gold for Great Britain hooray. I hope we do well in the rowing too, we are doing well in the sailing, gold or silver guaranteed.


Margaret
 

greatcyber

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Hi Guys,

I have been watching the games. We record the Canadian broadcast during the day and the US taped broadcasts at night. That way we get to see Canadians and Americans as all stations don't get all of the coverage.

An interesting tidbit from my mom yesterday...she told me that the fireworks during the opening ceremonies were "virtual," according to a program she watched in the US. Whatever they were, they were stunning.

I also prefer the winter games, but seeing the equestrian events are very interesting and I like the gymnastics, synco diving and various others. Why there would be professional athletes, like Kobe B. playing basketball is beyond me. It doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
 

rojo

(Ret)
Hi Stephen

I think the rules about Olympic athletes having to be amateur have been relaxed in relatively recent years. I don't remember the details on how exactly that came about; perhaps others have something to say about it?
 

marval

New member
Well Great Britain did very well in the velodrome cycling. I watch some each day, to see how we are doing.


Margaret
 

rojo

(Ret)
Canada is now on the medal board! :grin: I notice Great Britain is doing very well in 7th spot; Canada's in 25th place.

Some big record-breaking stories emerging; Phelps and Bolt among those making history. Very exciting stuff.
 

Corno Dolce

Admiral Honkenwheezenpooferspieler
Reading the news about Phelps now having surpassed Mark Spitz in the number of Gold medals - Wow! The dude must be a good swimmer.
 

Krummhorn

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If you're interested in the overall Olympic medal standings (so far), here's a link for the Official Beijing Olympics which show who has won what and how many. Clicking on an individual country brings up another screen showing the events medals were won in.

The site is updated daily from what I gather.
 

Contratrombone64

Admiral of Fugues
I was bitterly dissapointed that some group of hand pupeteers didn't do a reenactment of the Tianament Square massacre at the closing ceremony. Again, China's history is sanitised and colourful.
 

intet_at_tabe

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret.)
Did anyone watch the 4x100 Swimming event last night with France and the USA competing for the gold? France claimed they would 'smash' the USA Men's team, but the USA beat them by like .7 tenths of a second. It was an amazing feat, haha. Now Michael Phelps can win his 8 gold medals. But then I saw little Katie Hoff lose to a a Brit after she led the event for the entire race.

Anyways, As you can see I'll be rooting for the USA.

To Ms. rojo and Rachovsky :tiphat:

As a former competition swimmer while young, favourites distances 200 yards freestyle and backstroke and up to 1500 yards freestyle and of course relays, I would have loved to watch the USA phenomena in swimming Michael Phelps (Number one in 10 million of swimmers) take his 8. Gold medal in Beijing, and by doing this breaking the former record hold by former USA swimmer Mark Spitz all the way back to the 1972 Olympics.

Mark Spitz was my swimming idol, though he was a student then to become a dentist.

But I did not watch TV at all during the Olympics, while most of the time in Florence, Italy and Alasio also in Italy on honeymoon for a week in between.

I heard that Michael Phelps in one of his distances cut 3,5 seconds from the former record, which in swimming where you ordinary talk about improvements on the Olympic or World Record 1-2-3/100 of a second. 3, 5 seconds are unbelievable, never been done before and will never be done again, IMHO. But then we said in 1972, while I was 18 years of age, the record done by Mark Spitz 7 Gold medals, would never be broken by another swimmer.

So the new swimming suits created by Speedo (I think) first seen and used in Athens, Greece 2004, where the Australian swimmer Ian Thorpe won several distances, must have had a huge impact to decrease the time in every distance for all swimmers from every country, and yet Michael Phelps is a natural - no doubt about it. He has the talent, but talent is not enough, you need disciplin and swimming 7-8 hours every day including weekends and holidays, but also he has done nothing else but swimming since 2004 and probably 8 to 10 years prior to this. What a guy, I believe he is only 22 years of age, and will be in London, England in the 2012 Olympics - for sure.

He must be built physically as a Christmas tree downside up.

He won Gold medal in every distance and swim style he competed in, mostly or perhaps all distances in a new Olympic and World Record. I still can´t believe, he broke the record by Mark Spitz 1972, turning 8 Gold medals all in record time.

Congratulations in honour of Michael Phelps, the best and fastest swimmer this world has ever known, and congratulations to all of the USA swim team:tiphat::tiphat::tiphat::tiphat::clap::clap::clap::clap:
 
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intet_at_tabe

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret.)
Michael Phelps on Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Phelps

The triumphs of a unique US swimmer and athlete, beyond any comparison in the history of The Olympics and swimming throughout the world as a sport for years to come.

I hope on behalf of Michael Phelps that everyone, who knows him back home, his family, his friends, his swim buddy´s, his club, the university, the USA Swim Association, his home town, the state he lives in - everyone will salute him and honour him on this magnificent victory 8 GOLD Medals.

New swim suits or not, you do not reach this level of brillance in a 50 yards pool, if you´re not 110 percent dedicated for years on end to your sport.
 
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intet_at_tabe

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret.)
Here´s a funny true story from another international swim competition years ago:

Come to think of it about these new swim suits, glued to the body. The first swimmer in the world at an international swim contest, who shaved all his hair from his head, his chin, under his arms, on his chest, arms and legs was Don Scolander another USA swimmer. He wrote a book about his preparations, about how he had the second best time up to the finals in the 100 yards freestyle for men.

Now, swimmers are like other elite athletes up to the finals, they have butterflies in the stomach, everything you have trained for during perhaps 4 years, has to work, how to breeath air, the start jump must be perfect and the salto at the end of the 50 yards pool perfect, and they all are anxious to hear the start signal go. But before we see them come in beside the pool they always meet before the finals in the toilet, simply to pee.

Now Don Scolander had the second best time and was going to swim on lane 5, the best time a French swimmer had, so he had the favourite lane nr. 4. The French swimmer was almost a head shorter than Don Scolander. The audience and everyone in the swim stadium had never seen a male swimmer with absolute no hair on his head nor body.

So while in the peeing room, Don Scolander stood right beside the French swimmer, leaned over and looked over the shoulder of the French swimmer to his "little willie", and in english said: "Is that all you have?", obviously referring to the penis of the French swimmer.

They all came in to the pool took each their places behind the start blocks, stepped up and waited for the start signal and jumped in. After 75 yards, having done the salto after the first 50 yards the French swimmer suddenly collapsed in the pool, went under the water, huge panic at the swim stadium, because no one knew what had happened and Don Scolander won the 100 yards freestyle finals.

In his book years later he wrote: In every sport you have to have done anything possible physically and mentally to be 100 percent prepared the best before a competition, but often it´s not enough. I know, what I said to the French swimmer at the toilet, before we came in to the pool, was not fair play, but I won.

This is a true story.

We all know for instance in boxing, where the two competitors meet at the center of the ring, shaking hands, while the refferee tell them about fair play and not to hit the other guy under the belt (lower than the stomach) and respect the rules. We also know from boxing, while the refferee is talking to the two boxers, they look at each other "if eyes could kill" and so on. Muhammed Ali, while at the top of his career, would talk in highly condescending words to his oponent, call him dirty names, laugh at him or anything else to disturb his concentration - excactly the same thing Don Scolander did before the 100 yards freestyle finals in the toilet.

So he won, but not only because he had shaved all his hair from his head and his body, but simply by disturbing the focus, the concentration of the fortcoming finals talking about the penis of the French swimmer: "Is that all you have?".
 

Kromme

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It is too bad that wonderful Hoogenband is too old now.At his peak he was the finest freestyle sprinter ever lived (in my highly subjective opinion.)Now there is noone to challenge Phelps.In Athens 2004 there were three legends (Popov,Hoogenband,Thorpe) to challenge him and 2 of them (Hoogenband,Thorpe) got the best of him.But that takes nothing away from the magnificent achievement of Phelps.He is the 8th wonder of the world.
 

Contratrombone64

Admiral of Fugues
Here´s a funny true story from another international swim competition years ago:

Come to think of it about these new swim suits, glued to the body. The first swimmer in the world at an international swim contest, who shaved all his hair from his head, his chin, under his arms, on his chest, arms and legs was Don Scolander another USA swimmer. He wrote a book about his preparations, about how he had the second best time up to the finals in the 100 yards freestyle for men.

Now, swimmers are like other elite athletes up to the finals, they have butterflies in the stomach, everything you have trained for during perhaps 4 years, has to work, how to breeath air, the start jump must be perfect and the salto at the end of the 50 yards pool perfect, and they all are anxious to hear the start signal go. But before we see them come in beside the pool they always meet before the finals in the toilet, simply to pee.

Now Don Scolander had the second best time and was going to swim on lane 5, the best time a French swimmer had, so he had the favourite lane nr. 4. The French swimmer was almost a head shorter than Don Scolander. The audience and everyone in the swim stadium had never seen a male swimmer with absolute no hair on his head nor body.

So while in the peeing room, Don Scolander stood right beside the French swimmer, leaned over and looked over the shoulder of the French swimmer to his "little willie", and in english said: "Is that all you have?", obviously referring to the penis of the French swimmer.

They all came in to the pool took each their places behind the start blocks, stepped up and waited for the start signal and jumped in. After 75 yards, having done the salto after the first 50 yards the French swimmer suddenly collapsed in the pool, went under the water, huge panic at the swim stadium, because no one knew what had happened and Don Scolander won the 100 yards freestyle finals.

In his book years later he wrote: In every sport you have to have done anything possible physically and mentally to be 100 percent prepared the best before a competition, but often it´s not enough. I know, what I said to the French swimmer at the toilet, before we came in to the pool, was not fair play, but I won.

This is a true story.

We all know for instance in boxing, where the two competitors meet at the center of the ring, shaking hands, while the refferee tell them about fair play and not to hit the other guy under the belt (lower than the stomach) and respect the rules. We also know from boxing, while the refferee is talking to the two boxers, they look at each other "if eyes could kill" and so on. Muhammed Ali, while at the top of his career, would talk in highly condescending words to his oponent, call him dirty names, laugh at him or anything else to disturb his concentration - excactly the same thing Don Scolander did before the 100 yards freestyle finals in the toilet.

So he won, but not only because he had shaved all his hair from his head and his body, but simply by disturbing the focus, the concentration of the fortcoming finals talking about the penis of the French swimmer: "Is that all you have?".

Very interesting, I think it's referred to as "sledging"
 

intet_at_tabe

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret.)
Very interesting, I think it's referred to as "sledging"

"sledging", Thank you CT64 :tiphat::clap::banana::trp:

Do you remember tennis matches between John MacEnroe (USA) and Bjørn Borg (Sweden) at the Wimbledon Grass Tennis Courts?

We in Denmark loved the two of them playing. First because they at the time of each their profesional careers were top tennis players, or you won´t be ranked for Wimbledon.

Secondly because of the show MacEnroe often would display Live when things did not work out for him on the grass court. His continued discussions and attacks of any poor referree siting closer to heaven than the players, whether the ball was inside or outside, which incidently MacEnroe years later told the Danish sports press, after a show tennis match against Bjørn Borg only for the pleasure of the audience that some of it was his temper, but mostly he used "sledging" deliberately against the other tennis players to break their rhytm and ability focusing on the match. He admitted though to the press that playing against Bjørn Borg - it never worked, because Bjørn Borg simply turned his back to the "show". The most cool tennis player for years. But then no one ever saw him smile either while playing.

There was another tennis player from Rumania, Ilya Nastache, who also had huge troubles playing against Bjørn Borg on the grass at Wimbledon, because Bjørn Borg was like a rock of granit, carm and focused all the time, he would never throw his ketcher in the ground, never shout at the referree - a contradictions in terms towards MacEnroe and Nastache.

At one point when Bjørn Borg had Match Ball, leading 40 to 15, and about to serve. His eyes couldn´t find Ilya Nastache on the other side of the net. The TV cameras couldn´t either. So what had happened?

Ilya Nastache had left the grass and sat among the audience drinking Coca Cola with his arm around a beautiful blonde woman - also sledging. But it did not work against the Swede, but he audience went ballistic with laughter.

This particular incident went in to the history of international tennis, and we have seen it so many times on the repetition of this match.

Funny thing is, both MacEnroe and Nastache were great close friends to Bjørn Borg outside the tennis matches.
 
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intet_at_tabe

Rear Admiral Appassionata (Ret.)
It is too bad that wonderful Hoogenband is too old now.At his peak he was the finest freestyle sprinter ever lived (in my highly subjective opinion.)Now there is noone to challenge Phelps.In Athens 2004 there were three legends (Popov,Hoogenband,Thorpe) to challenge him and 2 of them (Hoogenband,Thorpe) got the best of him.But that takes nothing away from the magnificent achievement of Phelps.He is the 8th wonder of the world.

Hi Kromme :tiphat:

When I used to splash in the pool (compared to Phelps) more than a generation ago back in the early 1970´s, it was a generel observation and fact among swimmers that you were either a sprinter or a long distance swimmer, never both which had to do with whether your red or white muscle fibers were in the plural or not. Think of Carl Lewis (USA) a real muscular guy in the 100 yards run for men, towards the Marathon runners, very slim and not muscular.

This has changed completely. The past three Olympics, we have seen swimmers like Hoogenband, Thorne and Phelps, who can do both sprints and long distance.

Also back in the day, a swimmer at the age of 25-30 would never be seen, you were simply considered to be too old. There was a female swimmer in Beijing from the USA at 41 years of age in the final relay for women. Having left international top swimming in the 1990´s to become a Mom, but wanting to swim again, and she did at 41 years of age - Incredible. :clap::clap::clap::clap:

In a 50 yards and 100 yards freestyle swim competition it is full speed from the beginning after surfacing after the start jump. In 400 yards up to 1500 yards freestyle you accumulate and economise your powers in your swimming, beginning at around 90 percent of your maximum speed, and then you turn up for the "horsepower" depending on your competitors. Also in long distance swimming breathing is very important, so when 400 yards or more most swimmers will only breathe for every four time you put one of your arms over the surface of the pool. But nowadays with Phelps for instance, the rhytm seems to be changing sides when you breath, so every 3 times you lift one of the arms up you breath air. But then swimmers like Phelps and Thorne, know excactly how many strokes they will use for each 50 yards, and most of the time they simply do nothing else but looking to the bottom of the pool to the line on the bottom to keep navigation in each their lane the same.

I believe Phelps did the 1500 yards freestyle in 3,5 seconds under the former World Record, which will be a record hard for anyone to break for years. 1500 yards to most swimmers even with 4-8 years of constant practicing and competitions is a hard ball to manage. Trust me.

My former swim coach from Copenhagen in the 1970´s Jon Hestoy, born on the Faraoh Islands noth west of Scotland way up in the Atlantic, used to have the World Record in solo marathon swimming in a 50 yards pool for 24 hours without a break. His record back then 96 kilometers 145 yards. That´s what I call long distance swimming. I don´t know, whether anyone has ever broken this magnificent record. You can find it in the Guinness Book of Records under solo marathon swimming.
 
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Contratrombone64

Admiral of Fugues
MacEnroe was a bullying, childish man AND a hugely gifted tennis player. Shame he never learnt the word integrity when he was at school.
 
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