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John Watt
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At least you didn't put Ann and Nancy Wilson down because they're women.
And why, oh why, can they be less poetic, if they are still touring and singing,
with everyone saying they sound as good if not better than when they were younger?
Their poetic songs must have spoke to a larger audience if they sold more than Simon and Garfunkle.
The Beach Boys, brought up as a barbershop quartet posing as surfer dudes.
"There's a place where I can go to tell my troubles to, in my room, in my room".
Maybe Brian Wilson was prophetic as well as poetic.
He spent five years in his house as a sad narcotic addict with his feet in a sandbox below his piano.
But then, in America, he got famous for that.
How many songs did he write about cars with big motors? Quite a few.
I thought "Jan and Dean" with "Sidewalk Surfing", about skateboards, were better.
ah bah bah bah, bah bah bruh ann, bah bah bah, bah bah bruh ann,
my barbra a a ann, she is my gir ir irl, oh barbra a a ann,
she's got me walkin' and a talkin', walkin' and a talkin', barbra ann...
Jimi Hendrix, third verse, Castles Made of Sand
"there once was girl, whose heart was a frown,
'cause she was crippled for life and couldn't make a sound.
Until one day she decided to die.
So she took her wheelchair to the edge of the shore,
and to her legs she smiled you won't hurt me no more.
But suddenly, a sight she had never seen before made her jump up and say,
look, a golden winged ship is coming my way,
and it didn't have to stop, it just kept on going,
and so castles made of sand slip into the sea, eventually.
For me, life is about more than reveling in a past that wasn't what it was sold as.
Being in the music business wasn't about getting tired or old with how I started.
That's why I'm playing new music and getting paid somewhere every week,
even though I'm sixty-seven years old.
Glen Campbell broke into the Hollywood music scene by playing piano for the Beach Boys.
That's a happy if not hippy thought.
And why, oh why, can they be less poetic, if they are still touring and singing,
with everyone saying they sound as good if not better than when they were younger?
Their poetic songs must have spoke to a larger audience if they sold more than Simon and Garfunkle.
The Beach Boys, brought up as a barbershop quartet posing as surfer dudes.
"There's a place where I can go to tell my troubles to, in my room, in my room".
Maybe Brian Wilson was prophetic as well as poetic.
He spent five years in his house as a sad narcotic addict with his feet in a sandbox below his piano.
But then, in America, he got famous for that.
How many songs did he write about cars with big motors? Quite a few.
I thought "Jan and Dean" with "Sidewalk Surfing", about skateboards, were better.
ah bah bah bah, bah bah bruh ann, bah bah bah, bah bah bruh ann,
my barbra a a ann, she is my gir ir irl, oh barbra a a ann,
she's got me walkin' and a talkin', walkin' and a talkin', barbra ann...
Jimi Hendrix, third verse, Castles Made of Sand
"there once was girl, whose heart was a frown,
'cause she was crippled for life and couldn't make a sound.
Until one day she decided to die.
So she took her wheelchair to the edge of the shore,
and to her legs she smiled you won't hurt me no more.
But suddenly, a sight she had never seen before made her jump up and say,
look, a golden winged ship is coming my way,
and it didn't have to stop, it just kept on going,
and so castles made of sand slip into the sea, eventually.
For me, life is about more than reveling in a past that wasn't what it was sold as.
Being in the music business wasn't about getting tired or old with how I started.
That's why I'm playing new music and getting paid somewhere every week,
even though I'm sixty-seven years old.
Glen Campbell broke into the Hollywood music scene by playing piano for the Beach Boys.
That's a happy if not hippy thought.
Ella Beck
Member
Ah, thanks @elderpiano - this is another favourite of mine. I love the 'surfing' sound.
John Watt
Member
Too bad I'm a North American and heard and saw more about The Beach Boys.
They never used "surfing" or "seashore" sounds on any of their records.
They used a lot of hot-rod car motor sounds.
And like almost every big rock band that came out of California,
they ended up getting into some "cocomo".
When everyone thought the drummer didn't come back,
because he was drunk and probably feel off the dock,
nobody went out to look for him.
He was found dead, floating in the water the next day.
"Well I got me a car and I'll head for the strip,
I'll get me a girl and we'll go for a trip,
I get around, round round round I get 'round,
and we're never beat, with all the girls we meet,
round round round round...
get around, get around, I get around oo whoo oo
round round get around I get around oooo wheee-eee"
They never used "surfing" or "seashore" sounds on any of their records.
They used a lot of hot-rod car motor sounds.
And like almost every big rock band that came out of California,
they ended up getting into some "cocomo".
When everyone thought the drummer didn't come back,
because he was drunk and probably feel off the dock,
nobody went out to look for him.
He was found dead, floating in the water the next day.
"Well I got me a car and I'll head for the strip,
I'll get me a girl and we'll go for a trip,
I get around, round round round I get 'round,
and we're never beat, with all the girls we meet,
round round round round...
get around, get around, I get around oo whoo oo
round round get around I get around oooo wheee-eee"
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elderpiano
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At risk of being accused of revelling in the past, I hereby prompt a reminder that this thread was created for the purpose of 'Old' , Popular & Classical . So I shall post this great oldie. I think some old rock/pop groups were far better than the groups of today. In fact I found myself liking more American/Canadian bands than British. Not very patriotic of me, but that's how it is.
Although we did have our talent.
Although we did have our talent.
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Ella Beck
Member
Thanks, elderpiano - I didn't remember this till I started the video, then I did. I love it.
And certainly, yes - this thread is about old popular music (say, 1940s till 1990).
elderpiano
Member
Lovely song from Elvis!
elderpiano
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The Who
elderpiano
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Blonde
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John Watt
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Disco never really took in Toronto, the capital of Ontario.
Bars that went disco brought bands back in, some keeping the DJ for between sets.
I played "Heart of Glass" and a couple more Blondie songs when they were on the charts.
Blondie was an interesting band, having rhythms and a variety of productions.
But that's just band talk.
What really makes me respect Deborah Harry was hearing about her guitarist-husband.
When he was stricken and hospitalized for over a year,
she stopped performing and visited him every day, waiting until he got better.
That's not having a heart of glass.
And before you start thinking I must have played a lot of Donna Summer, yes, you're right,
if you listen to her recordings you'll hear that she started out in hard rock bands,
and has big drums, deep bass and hard rock guitar sounds and solos.
If I had to name one band from my disco era, it would be "Earth, Wind and Fire".
The Commodores, where Lionel Richie came from, were local for me but they didn't last that long.
I just hafta add that when I say Blondie had rhythms and different productions,
that was really about what could be called their template of musicianship.
You could compare them to The Talking Heads and The Cars that way.
We would start off like the song, and then really start getting into it.
Talking Heads did a r'n'b standard, "Take Me to the River", but they never got wet.... or sweaty with it.
What looked good on MTV could sound very lame onstage, if you let it.
Bars that went disco brought bands back in, some keeping the DJ for between sets.
I played "Heart of Glass" and a couple more Blondie songs when they were on the charts.
Blondie was an interesting band, having rhythms and a variety of productions.
But that's just band talk.
What really makes me respect Deborah Harry was hearing about her guitarist-husband.
When he was stricken and hospitalized for over a year,
she stopped performing and visited him every day, waiting until he got better.
That's not having a heart of glass.
And before you start thinking I must have played a lot of Donna Summer, yes, you're right,
if you listen to her recordings you'll hear that she started out in hard rock bands,
and has big drums, deep bass and hard rock guitar sounds and solos.
If I had to name one band from my disco era, it would be "Earth, Wind and Fire".
The Commodores, where Lionel Richie came from, were local for me but they didn't last that long.
I just hafta add that when I say Blondie had rhythms and different productions,
that was really about what could be called their template of musicianship.
You could compare them to The Talking Heads and The Cars that way.
We would start off like the song, and then really start getting into it.
Talking Heads did a r'n'b standard, "Take Me to the River", but they never got wet.... or sweaty with it.
What looked good on MTV could sound very lame onstage, if you let it.
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John Watt
Member
I'm going to type first, and then try another embed.
I always heard that Paul wrote this during an airplane flight on a napkin.
By this time, the Beatles were using pub songs as the basis for using Beatle words.
I wouldn't be surprised if this came from a piece of classical music,
considering the Beatles production team was working with the BBC Orchestra.
Those Peter Sellers movies where he plays an Indian from India, also the BBC Orchestra,
are the sitar sounds you heard in Beatles records.
Here today, this embedding seems so far away,
how I wish I could get one to stay,
oh I believe I will some day.
Suddenly, some strange combination will work for me,
all my hassles will be a click away,
oh I know it will work that way.
All I have to do is keep asking, and someone will show, oh oh oh oh,
I keep doing something wrong, but that's okay,
because when I embed all those yesterdays will be gone away ay ay ay
Here today, no-one says I look like Paul, that Beatle, any more,
I'm still playing guitar, even if, the Beatles are here no more,
oh I believe tomorrow is the time for me...
I believe in my sunset destiny.
I always heard that Paul wrote this during an airplane flight on a napkin.
By this time, the Beatles were using pub songs as the basis for using Beatle words.
I wouldn't be surprised if this came from a piece of classical music,
considering the Beatles production team was working with the BBC Orchestra.
Those Peter Sellers movies where he plays an Indian from India, also the BBC Orchestra,
are the sitar sounds you heard in Beatles records.
Here today, this embedding seems so far away,
how I wish I could get one to stay,
oh I believe I will some day.
Suddenly, some strange combination will work for me,
all my hassles will be a click away,
oh I know it will work that way.
All I have to do is keep asking, and someone will show, oh oh oh oh,
I keep doing something wrong, but that's okay,
because when I embed all those yesterdays will be gone away ay ay ay
Here today, no-one says I look like Paul, that Beatle, any more,
I'm still playing guitar, even if, the Beatles are here no more,
oh I believe tomorrow is the time for me...
I believe in my sunset destiny.
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John Watt
Member
Desperate postings call for desperate measures, wanting to embed,
so I phoned my domain build tech in New Brunswick to get some advice.
I wasn't even embedding on my own domain and previous music domain.
Now I can.
If I have to have my first embed as a pop song, a rock star, and a slow song, continuing this thread,
it has to be Jimi Hendrix. This is "May This Be Love", what some people call "Waterfall".
It starts with guitar playing that can be described as falling rain, dripping and running down your face,
maybe your tears, and the drumming reminds me of big drops falling with a rhythm of the rain.
Jimi is said to have played the entire solo on the B string.
This is more of a meandering melody, or more of a musical journey, than the Beatles ever were.
This may be love, but Jimi's love has a lot to conquer before it can be his all.
I watched over ten covers of this song, hoping for a nice live version to watch,
even one played with a big rock band in Copenhagen,
but none of them came even half as close to the musical statement Jimi makes.
I know I can play this song, and my micro-digital half-rack BOSS stereo echo effect,
is something that Jimi's equipment wasn't half-way close to, as being stereo or expansiveness.
That's what my experience is all about, finding a more expansive sound to build on.
Just like his was.
so I phoned my domain build tech in New Brunswick to get some advice.
I wasn't even embedding on my own domain and previous music domain.
Now I can.
If I have to have my first embed as a pop song, a rock star, and a slow song, continuing this thread,
it has to be Jimi Hendrix. This is "May This Be Love", what some people call "Waterfall".
It starts with guitar playing that can be described as falling rain, dripping and running down your face,
maybe your tears, and the drumming reminds me of big drops falling with a rhythm of the rain.
Jimi is said to have played the entire solo on the B string.
This is more of a meandering melody, or more of a musical journey, than the Beatles ever were.
This may be love, but Jimi's love has a lot to conquer before it can be his all.
I watched over ten covers of this song, hoping for a nice live version to watch,
even one played with a big rock band in Copenhagen,
but none of them came even half as close to the musical statement Jimi makes.
I know I can play this song, and my micro-digital half-rack BOSS stereo echo effect,
is something that Jimi's equipment wasn't half-way close to, as being stereo or expansiveness.
That's what my experience is all about, finding a more expansive sound to build on.
Just like his was.
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Ella Beck
Member
Thanks, elderpiano - I'd never heard this before, but the rhythm is really compelling.
John Watt
Member
A "heartily dislike" from Ella Beck is a new thing to see, and a thunder to behold.
I'm not trying to increase your animosity, but here's a newer cross-cultural take on J. S. Bach.
Hey! If I'm not watching a movie or TV episode, this is the only time I get to see clothes like this.
Did these guys borrow a bouree, or did they make it their own?
Only those up on American intellectual property laws can answer that.
Seeing this embed pop on is truly a wonder to behold. Magic!
I'm not trying to increase your animosity, but here's a newer cross-cultural take on J. S. Bach.
Hey! If I'm not watching a movie or TV episode, this is the only time I get to see clothes like this.
Did these guys borrow a bouree, or did they make it their own?
Only those up on American intellectual property laws can answer that.
Seeing this embed pop on is truly a wonder to behold. Magic!
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