MyOrgan vs Hauptwerk

[musicalis]

Reply for MFRDES

Hi !

Saint-Bertrand de Comminges is a French city, near by Toulouse. In this town, there are many organ lovers and they organise every year a composition contest for their organ.
To write a music for this contest, I have built a virtual organ with the specifications of the organ of St-Bertrand cathédral.
For the ODF, I have writen it line by line with a text editor (Notepad.exe). Many hours of work.
For the sample set, I have done it by myself, for all for free:
Some samples are free samples set found on the web. Sometimes, I have extended the compass from48 keys to 54.
I have build all the other samples myself, from many free sources. For instance, extending MP3 demos (15 notes in arpeggio) to full 54 notes keyboard. I did it for instance for the regale 8' stop. Many days of work.
I cannot give the sample set of St-bertrand, but I can give the ODF.

Now, I am writing a software in Visual Basic, to create ODF in a few minutes only. The software is not completed, but it runs. This software for MyOrgan or Hwk 1 will be a freeeware.

 

[RadogoR]

Hello everyone,

First of all, let me apologize for renewing such an old thread. However, my question concerns the same topic.

I use Yamaha DGX-220 and I always dreamed to play organ. The stock organ sample in the Yamaha is not bad at all, but.. there is something missing.. I don`t know how to express it with words.

Actually the question is - what do I need to play, except of the keyboard and the MyOrgan software itself? What kind of sound card should I have? What are the system requirements to play comfortable?

And - the general question - is it worth at all? Will it work?

 

[Ghekorg7 (Ret)]

Hi RadogoR and welcome to this great forum.

I know exactly what you mean !

So, MyOrgan is old news..... Now there is GrandOrgue v2. better and powerfull.

What to do :

Get a laptop with win7 dualcore CPU (intel better, though AMD it's ok) 2GB ram minimum, better 4GB (you'll need it for large sets!).
To get better sound and to be able to play with no latency (delay on your fingers) you must download and install ASIO4ALL v2.1 driver.
This is a must.
Get a midi to usb device unlees your DGX220 has a direct USB out.

Go here on this subforum (electronic organs) and scroll down to find the GrandOrgue v2 release thread where you 'll find the links to download GrandOrgue softeware.
Also go and see my free sets sticky index on this subforum too. Your first selection must be Jeuxdorgues2 (Romansvillier) to start with something. Burea 3m/p is the top one. Anyway you can get them all and then decide which is the one for your needs.

When your setup is ready , aka : DGX220>midi/usb>computer(Asio4all installed & GrandOrgue v2 too)> GrandOgue opened.
select midi input (the midi/usb name will appear) and midichannel on which DGX transmitts and Audio out to Asio, set buffer to low as possible to get no latency.
Open stops, play and enjoy !

This for start, ask questions as many as you need, we're many of us here enjoying GrandOrgue !
Help for get things workin' is certain !

All my best
Panos

 

[ggoode.sa]

Hi RadogoR,

As Panos has already indicated, GrandOrgue is very light on system resources, so I would suggest first using what you have (and use the ASIO4ALL driver if you don't have a soundcard with ASIO drivers or your ASIO drivers are preset to only 48Khz - GrandOrgue uses 44.1Khz). Then experiment and see if your latency experience requires a better sound card, or if you need more RAM, etc.

And please ask whatever questions you need to!

Kind regards,
GrahamG

 

[RadogoR]

Thank you, Ghekorg7, ggoode.sa !

Unfortunately been busy the whole week, couldn`t get to my Bach and Buxtehude (yep, I know, Buxtehude is not the music you should play at the "newbie" level, but I have some musical education, and I`m passionate about the great Passacaglia in D moll, although it`s almost impossible to play without the foot register).

Actually I have similar system configuration (AMD DualCore 3 Ghz, 2 GB RAM, but a very very easy sound card and XP, not the Win7). Is the Win 7 really necessary?
Nevermind, I`ll try.

The second thing I would like to share - I found a guy, who is a true genius of microelectronics, and he will try to develop a foot keyboard for me) I hope he will succeed, cause some masterpieces of Bach without a clear bass line - nah... better not to play at all.

Oh, and just the last question - could someone give me a hint, where can I find printed music of Bach in transcription for piano? (It will actualy take some time to develop that wonterful foot keyboard and I`m eager to play now... ) Googled about a day everywhere, found just the Bach`s Toccata in D moll... Is that all?

 

[ggoode.sa]

Hi Radogo,

Win XP is great!! So don't worry about Win 7 until you need too.

Send your microelectronics guy to http://www.ucapps.de/ and have him look at the MIDIO128 project. It is a great, cost effective and opensource design for MIDI products with a great forum for questions and help.

Bach for Piano:
http://www.free-scores.com/free-she....x=48&imageField.y=14&divers=&search=&niveau=

http://imslp.org/wiki/Special:CategoryWalker/Bach,_Johann_Sebastian/

Hope that helps

GrahamG

 

[Ghekorg7 (Ret)]

Hi RadogoR,

Bux.... Passacaglia..... you just pulled a string of me. One my eternal favorite music works ever made.
That ostinato bass is essential yes, but you can record it in your host/multitrack studio or even with GrandOrgue's recorder from start to end and then practice the hands untill your pedalboard is ready.
If you need step by step how to just ask.

Graham already gave you the links. But have you tried other keyboard works of Bach?
You know, 90% of todays star performers play them on piano, but the right thing to do is play them with the harpsichord and/or clavichord, spinet and/or virginal.

You can try Prelude in C major BWV846 with GrandOrgue and Blanchet 1720 harpsichord set loaded or Epinette too !!!

Also the same aplies to some manualiter works of Bux and his genuine harpsichord works. Small Italian is the one for those. (since there isn't a free Ruckers.....)

XP is just fine, yes. Go on.

My best
Panos

 

[AlainT]

I confirm that Bach's pieces were mostly intended to be played on the harpsichord or the organ. And really, even the 2 voices Inventions sound quite different when played on the Blanchet 1720 harpsichord running on Grand Orgue.
It's a pitty that Grand Orgue would not be available as a VSTI, so we could play it through Cubase and add the little bit of reverb which would make the sound great .....!

 

[Dorsetmike]

More Bach scores here

http://icking-music-archive.org/ByComposer/J.S.Bach.php

Scores in PDF format for printing, also some Music XML, MP3 and MIDI files plus some files in formats for various Notation software apps.

Just a few more composers here, including Buxtehude, or you might try some of the John Stanley Voluntaries.

http://icking-music-archive.org/ByComposer.php

I run GO on Win XP, 2.6GHz dual core, 2Gb RAM and on board SigmaTel sound, found ASIO4ALL was more hindrance than help, no latency problems with the on board sound..

I agree the Blanchet 1720 does sound nice, especially with the added Pedal, must have a longer experimental play with it and maybe some of the other Harpsichord sets, I've downloaded the Taskin but not tried it yet.

 

[Ghekorg7 (Ret)]

Hi AlainT,

Just use : Jack 1.9.7 / GrandOrgue with Blanchet Loaded / Your VST reverb made as standalone with savihost (Reverberate LE is the best free) and then connect them with Qjackd connection kit (Included in Jack).

Other way is to use REAPER and its Rearoute Asio drivers so you can send GO's audio into Reaper !

Best
Panos

 

[RadogoR]

Hi again everyone,

Finally got some free time to try GrandOrgue at Sunday.
Well... Managed to install and setup everything needed, connected my DGX to the big brother.. Unfortunately, everything I could hear - just hissing, no matter what registers/options I tried to use ( I think, my audio system and soundcard are just too lame. Will buy the hardware in a while and try again.

Anyway, thanks a lot for help to everyone.

PS. Just a quick remark - for those poor bastards like me who can not run GrandOrgue at the moment - a little collection of organ masterpieces in transcription for piano can be found at http://imslp.org/wiki

For example, Buxtehude. Passacaglia D-moll - http://imslp.org/wiki/Passacaglia,_BuxWV_161_(Buxtehude,_Dietrich)

 

[ggoode.sa]

Hi,

Please tell us more about how you went about testing GrandOrgue... 'just hissing' has never happened to me even on a Pentium II 400Mhz computer running and old old soundcard...

What MIDI input had you configured to GrandOrgue, and what channels where you playing on? What was the latency value in the Audio setup?

Kind regards,
GrahamG