Greetings in Foreign Languages

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
Rydych shager defaid syml o blaid mynd sugno a Chennin :grin::grin::grin:
 

Dorsetmike

Member
Strange how so many of these languages, that have not advanced in the same way as English and other European languages, seem to rely on English words for more modern items and terms, e.g. Teddy's "pitchfork" and a couple of words of Colin's above. I recall teaching some electronics to engineers whose native language was Arabic; when they were discussing lessons among themselves they used English words like "transistor" and other technical terms as Arabic had no equivalent.
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
Strange how so many of these languages, that have not advanced in the same way as English and other European languages, seem to rely on English words for more modern items and terms, e.g. Teddy's "pitchfork" and a couple of words of Colin's above. I recall teaching some electronics to engineers whose native language was Arabic; when they were discussing lessons among themselves they used English words like "transistor" and other technical terms as Arabic had no equivalent.
It happens more in the fields of science and technology, in NZ the Maori Language is a fine example, they did try to find Maori equivalents but not successfully they had to use too many basic words much easier to say "transistor" :)
 

teddy

Duckmeister
This caused some troble in France where the French started talking about le weekend, etc. The French govermnet is trying to stamp it out as they believe the launguage is becoming bastardised. I believe nearly every language uses words borrowed from other countries either because there is no equivelant or the foreighn word sounds exotic. i.e. bistro instead of cafe.

teddy
 

Alban Berg

Banned
Bistro!!!!

This caused some troble in France where the French started talking about le weekend, etc. The French govermnet is trying to stamp it out as they believe the launguage is becoming bastardised. I believe nearly every language uses words borrowed from other countries either because there is no equivelant or the foreighn word sounds exotic. i.e. bistro instead of cafe.

teddy

Bistro comes from the word бистро (pronounced bistra) in Russian. The meaning is FAST. French adopted this word when many Russian guys (Chefs mainly) went there...
Here in Quebec everything is mixed...(English and French). The worse is that people don't even know...To be followed.



Martin
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
All living languages borrow from each other, but IMO English will become the universal language which does not make the French happy chappies.
 

Alban Berg

Banned
boycott

All living languages borrow from each other, but IMO English will become the universal language which does not make the French happy chappies.

after the boycott they made to the ESPERANTO in 1954

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esperanto

Maybe is it going to be replaced by Chinese...Very easy language!
French is far behind...Spanish is more important than English.


The Summer Institute for Linguistics (SIL) Ethnologue Survey (1999) lists the following as the top languages by population:
(number of native speakers in parentheses)

  • Chinese* (937,132,000)
  • Spanish (332,000,000)
  • English (322,000,000)
  • Bengali (189,000,000)
  • Hindi/Urdu (182,000,000)
  • Arabic* (174,950,000)
  • Portuguese (170,000,000)
  • Russian (170,000,000)
  • Japanese (125,000,000)
  • German (98,000,000)
  • French* (79,572,000)
Martin
 

teddy

Duckmeister
In my humble (ha ha) opinion it is not just how many people speak a language, or how many countries it is spoken in, it is how widespread it is. According to my cousin (a doctor of languages specialising in Spanish) there are many more countries than most os us realise that speak Spanish, but English, in its many forms is certainly the most widespread. Add to that the fact that English is the language of aviators and like Colin I believe we have a clear winner.

teddy
 

Mat

Sr. Regulator
Staff member
Sr. Regulator
Regulator
Well, Teddy, English might be a winner for now, but I won't be surprised if Chinese gets suprisingly widespread over the next couple of years.
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
I agree with teddy, I don’t think it’s the number of people that speak a language but how fast the language is spreading and adding new words to its vocabulary, and again it depends on where you get your info from, what I have found and of course I do not know if it is correct and up to date but the fastest spreading ones are : English, Spanish, and English in front.
English is the international business, trade, manufacturing and learning language of the world.
 

teddy

Duckmeister
The main trouble with Chinese Mat is the number of characters you need to know. Someone told me a Chinese typewriter has 400 keys. I would be interested to know if this is correct. Add to that the fact that the Chinese are generally selling, not buying. The French refuse to trade in any language but their own and the English are notorious for not learning other languages. they think if they shout everyone will understand them. The Chinese seem very good at foreign languages. Possibly because of the complexity of their own. I agree that English will continue to be number one.

teddy
 

Alban Berg

Banned
You are right...but there is a reason...

In my humble (ha ha) opinion it is not just how many people speak a language, or how many countries it is spoken in, it is how widespread it is. According to my cousin (a doctor of languages specialising in Spanish) there are many more countries than most os us realise that speak Spanish, but English, in its many forms is certainly the most widespread. Add to that the fact that English is the language of aviators and like Colin I believe we have a clear winner.

teddy
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English is the easiest language to learn quite quickly...I mean not perfectly but you can manage English quite fast...No stupid femenin or masculin things (like in Latin languages or Russian)...Verbs are easy....Other languages are much more difficult...In Short, no need to be smart to learn this language! And you have so many "no-smart" people over there...you could make up a new country just for them...More people than in China! About 40% of the earth!

Martin...(even I can speak English...LOL)
 

JHC

Chief assistant to the assistant chief
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In Short, no need to be smart to learn this language! And you have so many "no-smart" people over there...you could make up a new country just for them...More people than in China! About 40% of the earth!

Martin...(even I can speak English...LOL)
Perhaps if they were shipped to Spain it would raise the IQ of both countries :D
 

teddy

Duckmeister
What languages do you speak Martin and which do you teach.? Also which do you consider to be your native language?

teddy - being nosey.
 

Alban Berg

Banned
a very difficult question...

What languages do you speak Martin and which do you teach.? Also which do you consider to be your native language?

teddy - being nosey.

Well (if I consider that my English is quite ok): 3: Spanish, French and English

Manage: Russian, Portuguese and Italian....

No other, my German sucks...

My mother tongue...this is a difficult one. I was born in Argentina (let's say Spanish?)...I went to a Scottish school...My father was British...I learned French when I was 15 but since I started speaking just in French with my mother, who was French...I've been living here for more than 27 years, speaking in the three languages constantly...Tell me...which one is my mother tongue?

Best

I have to run!

Martin
 

teddy

Duckmeister
I have been told that German is the easiest language to learn. Also the most important if you are going to study languages generally, or read the classics. Any comments from anyone?

teddy
 
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