Beethoven Piano Sonata Cycle Journal

[Contratrombone64]

I have to say I'm not a fan of the "old fellows" playing Bach ... and I'm not (necessarily) a purist but I prefer a less 20th century and purer approach. Period instruments are fine by me ... but that's a PERSONAL preference and not a criticism of your collection.

 

[Todd]

Have you done a review on Annie Fischer's cycle on Hungaroton?

I wrote a very brief, general one years ago. One day soon I shall revisit her cycle yet again and hope to write about it. Her cycle is one of the supreme recorded cycles. I rate her cycle, Gulda’s Amadeo cycle, Backhaus’ mono cycle, and Kempff’s mono cycle as my four favorites.

I’ve currently got notes on 11 cycles that I’ve not yet written about, and have another waiting in the wings. (I’m sampling Michaël Levinas now, and Akiyoshi Sako needs another listen.) BTW, I covered Barenboim’s DVD cycle in a separate thread earlier this year.

I notice you've avoided Alfred Brendel, any reasons?

I covered his second cycle in this thread. I have notes on both his first and third cycles as well. Generally speaking, I’m not a big fan of Brendel, his Schoenberg and newer Mozart recordings aside. It’s not so much that he’s cerebral – Sherman is also cerebral, for instance – so much as he can be a tad clinical and aloof. Of his three cycles, his second is my favorite overall, but as with Barenboim, all three cycles offer performances that stand out.

 

[methodistgirl]

I'm glad someone has the time to type all of that down. I do well to
give a short essay. My favorite beethoven piano sonata is the
moonlight sonata all three movements and Fur Else.
judy tooley

 

[Krummhorn]

. . . My favorite beethoven piano sonata is the
moonlight sonata all three movements and Fur Else.
judy tooley

Für Elise ... wow, that brings back memories ... the one single piece that I think every beginning piano student the whole world over is given to learn. I got to hate that piece and still do to this day, although I admire Beethoven's music in general.

Moonlight Sonata - beautiful ... I've heard Charlie Balogh play this at Organ Stop in Mesa ... stunning work, stunning organ, awesome music.

 

[Kel]

I'm glad someone has the time to type all of that down. I do well to
My favorite beethoven piano sonata is the
moonlight sonata all three movements and Fur Else.
judy tooley

Hi Judy,

If you like the Moonlight sonata, then try your ears with Annie Fischer's version. Although hers is not the only one that stands out for me, I can say though that her legato line in the opening phrases is just pure magic, ethereal almost. Her playing transports you to another world. And I cannot say enough of her singing tone, even with her left hand, something I find drastically missing in many performances of LvB's sonatas.

 

[Contratrombone64]

Todd - I'd be very interested to hear what is your favourite recording of the Hammerklavier Sonata (29), it's my all time favourite. I also notice Jeno Jando didn't rate a mention yet ... I assume you'll get to him?

 

[Kel]

John Lill hasn't been mentioned. He's got a good Hammerklavier. I think Fischer's is astounding, and two of my favourites is Richter and Rosen.

 

[oisfetz]

My favorite is the old recording of great Solomon Cutner.

 

[Todd]

Todd - I'd be very interested to hear what is your favourite recording of the Hammerklavier Sonata (29), it's my all time favourite.

I don't have a single favorite. Rather, I'd say that the below ten more or less compete for the honor:

Maurizion Pollini
Rudolf Serkin
Annie Fischer
Friedrich Gulda (Amadeo)
Claude Frank
Craig Sheppard
Seymour Lipkin
Paul Lewis
Daniel Barenboim (EMI, 2005, DVD)
Paul Badura-Skoda (Gramola)


I may or may not get to Jando. I'm not a huge fan based on what I've heard from him.

 

[Contratrombone64]

Hey Todd - thanks for the list, apart from the Barenboim set (which I own) I don't know the others - will attempt to get hold of at least some of them. As to you not getting to Jando ... I understand, though it makes you rather an unlikely critique, yes?

 

[methodistgirl]

The brother to paul, one of the musicians at church loves to play
Beethoven when he is there on the Steinway piano in our sanctuary.
I also loved hearing it while I was in Wednesday night class. Some of
it is really beautiful including Song of Joy, Moonlight Sonata, and Fir
else as he played it note per note as he went through an entire song
book.
judy tooley

 

[Krummhorn]

Hmm, "Fir else" ?? Ahah, Beethoven wrote for the tree forest ... :grin:

I think you meant Für Elise ... I hate that piece ... I cringe everytime I hear it ... it was drummed into my head as a beginning piano student ... Beethoven is great ... but that piece ... :ut: <cringing> :nut:

 

[Contratrombone64]

Krummhorn ... I tend to agree with you about Für Elise but when it's played by a competant pianist ... I also hate the 5th symphony for the very same reason: heard it far too often as a student.

 

[Todd]

As to you not getting to Jando ... I understand, though it makes you rather an unlikely critique, yes?

I'm not sure I get your point. I simply write about what I want to, when I want to. I'm not a professional critic and have never claimed to be one.

 

[Contratrombone64]

Well, sir, if you publish your tomes here you become a de facto critique, that's for sure. I enjoy them, so don't stop, as to Jeno Jando, fair enough.

 

[Todd]

Well, sir, if you publish your tomes here you become a de facto critique, that's for sure.

I don't get paid for what I write, so I'm merely an enthusiast writing about music, not a critic.

 

[Todd]

Kun-Woo Paik

A couple years ago I picked up the first volume of Kun-Woo Paik’s Beethoven sonata cycle, comprising sonatas from Op 31/1 through 81a. The notes indicated that the rest of the cycle would be recorded later in 2006 and 2007. Cool, I thought, since I was still buying plenty of cycles at the time. But 2006 and then 2007 came and went with no additional volumes here in the US. I’d occasionally check MDT and Amazon, but to no avail. Then a few weeks ago I broadened by search and stumbled upon Han Books in Los Angeles. It’s a Korean bookstore that imports all manner of goodies from Korea. Among the goodies it sells are all of the remaining volumes of the cycle. Decca released the cycle in three additional 2-disc sets rather than two 3-disc sets, but there it was. (The additional volumes are also available in France I later found, though the box-set is not.)

Also there was the complete set in a nifty looking super digi-pac box more reminiscent of LP box-sets than CD box-sets. Though I had the first volume, I decided to go for the complete box because it looks so nifty and because it comes with a DVD and because the sonatas are presented chronologically and because it’s a limited, numbered edition. (Mine’s number 2229.) And it’s not too expensive – around $114 with shipping. Once I got the box it became apparent this set is for the Korean market only. The generous book (not booklet) is detailed and physically large – and all in Korean, save the French intro by the pianist. The included DVD is a low-rent affair, with blah camera work, blah image quality, and no subtitles for people who don’t speak French or Korean. But that’s irrelevant, really – it’s all about the music.

When I wrote about the first volume, I noted that I thought it was a mixed bag: Some sonatas were superbly played, some not, though Kun-Woo’s technical mastery was evident throughout, as was his emotional detachment. Opp 31/3, 57, 78, and 54 came off best, and I surmised that the pianist would fare better in the early sonatas than the late sonatas. Well, after hearing the whole cycle, it’s clear that it is a mixed bag overall, and my initial hunch was right – Kun-Woo is better in the early sonatas than the late ones.

Rather than go into detail, I’ll just cover the set in very broad strokes. The earliest sonatas generally fare well. Crisp, light, lithe playing characterizes much of the set, and some sonatas, like Op 2/3, Op 7, and the two Op 14 sonatas all benefit greatly. The pianist’s comparative detachment doesn’t detract at all here, and the generally high energy playing really sounds fine. The recorded sound doesn’t offer the last word in clarity, and Kun-Woo’s playing isn’t the clearest, most differentiated around, but it’s quite fine. Unfortunately, the meatier early works don’t fare as well. Op 10/3 comes off as too lightweight for me, with not a whole lot of drama or passion in the great slow movement. Op 13 fares better, with the briskly played opener having a bit of oomph. The last of the early sonatas (or the first of the middle, depending on how you look at), Op 22, is taken at a slightly broader tempo than I would have anticipated, but still has enough verve and variety to satisfy.

The middle sonatas find Kun-Woo doing some fine things. Op 26 is surprisingly effective, delivered in a taut, slightly cool fashion, with the Funeral March poked out in a small-ish scale but edgy enough fashion. Op 27/1 possesses enough energy and drive to satisfy, and Op 28 is lyrical, smooth, and quite charming. The middle of the middle I’ve covered in more detail, but revisiting the sonatas found me enjoying Op 31/1 a bit more, and now I must say that 31/3 is top-flight stuff. The Appasionata reminds me of an updated version of Robert Casadesus’ formidable take on the work, and Op 54 still stands as a unique take, with a blistering fast Allegretto.

The late sonatas are less satisfying. The first thing I noticed about the late sonatas, which here start with Op 90, is that the recorded sound is different – and not as good. It’s more distant, more resonant, more muffled, and more metallic. It’s still modern sound, it’s just not as good as the rest of the set. Anyway, Op 90 sounds quite nice, especially the second, proto-Schubertian movement with its flowing lyricism. Op 101 is a miss, though. It never really evokes the late-LvB sound world for me. Less satisfying yet is the mighty Hammerklavier. Though Kun-Woo definitely has the chops to play it fast, he instead plays it very slow, emphasizing the quasi-orchestral, grand nature of the music. The slow movement lacks enough gravitas, to boot. The last three sonatas improve a bit, though all lack the ultimate degree of late Beethoven gravitas. Op 111 probably fares best of all, with the pianist playing with decent drive and bite in the opener and allowing himself personal leeway in the slow movement, delivering a very fine Arietta, blurred, beautiful trills, and some nearly transcendental playing at times.

Overall, this is not a great cycle in my estimation. But it is a slightly better than above average one overall. Compared to the most recent complete cycles and some on-going ones, I’d definitely have to say he’s closer in quality to Barenboim’s superb DVD cycle than he is to Paul Lewis’ rather dull cycle, though Barenboim rather handily delivers more of everything that counts most. Kun-Woo is uneven like Andras Schiff, though he even more rarely delivers the brilliant insights that Schiff sometimes does. He’s nimbler and more individual than Ikuyo Nakamichi, though she plays rather more beautifully. (And Kun-Woo’s playing is itself rather distinguished tonally.) He lacks the seriousness and weight of Craig Sheppard, though he’s more flexible. He tinkers more with tempi and dynamics than Akiyoshi Sako, but his vision is less compelling, solid, and certain. And he definitely doesn’t aggressively present his ideas like Ronald Brautigam, and sometimes there’s less excitement as a result. Overall, this is a fine cycle, one I’m glad to have, and one I’ll return to with pleasure, but I must seek out others for more meaningful Beethoven.

 

[methodistgirl]

I'm glad someone had the time to type all of that up. :grin:
judy tooley

 

[Kromme]

I have Schnabel,Kempff (DG Stereo),Barenboim (EMI 60's) and Brendel cycles.My favourite is Kempff.

 

[methodistgirl]

My favorite Beethoven sonata is Moonlight.
judy tooley