Writing Tutti's for orchestra
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Re: Writing Tutti\'s for orchestra
Sure.
When I was at university we analyzed some classical scores; Handel, Bach, Mozart Beethoven and the professor pointed out how sometimes the music alternates between soloists, or trios and the whole orchestra/tutti. The reason I'm asking this is because the producer for my upcoming world music album has commented that my compositions just an instrumental lead in the A section, a different instrument lead in the B section etc... always using the same form of ABC or ABCD usually of equal 8 bar lengths. It's too symmetrical and flat footed. I've got to learn how to break things up with transitions, builds, and I though it would be interesting to try the classical technique of tutti.
Maybe I'm using the word wrong but I imagine that usually there is just a texture in the tutti section or some kind of more obscured version of the melody. Here's my latest composition that uses the inversion and retrograde rhythmically displaced(as well as an improvised section on flute) of a traditional Vietnamese melody. The form is too similar to all my other music. I need ideas to create variety from my other pieces.
Here's a link to two pieces. http://www.broadjam.com/transmit/transmi...&yhgbndsq=2
The other one is based on a Tibetan melody.
Gongchime
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When I was at university we analyzed some classical scores; Handel, Bach, Mozart Beethoven and the professor pointed out how sometimes the music alternates between soloists, or trios and the whole orchestra/tutti. The reason I'm asking this is because the producer for my upcoming world music album has commented that my compositions just an instrumental lead in the A section, a different instrument lead in the B section etc... always using the same form of ABC or ABCD usually of equal 8 bar lengths. It's too symmetrical and flat footed. I've got to learn how to break things up with transitions, builds, and I though it would be interesting to try the classical technique of tutti.
Maybe I'm using the word wrong but I imagine that usually there is just a texture in the tutti section or some kind of more obscured version of the melody. Here's my latest composition that uses the inversion and retrograde rhythmically displaced(as well as an improvised section on flute) of a traditional Vietnamese melody. The form is too similar to all my other music. I need ideas to create variety from my other pieces.
Here's a link to two pieces. http://www.broadjam.com/transmit/transmi...&yhgbndsq=2
The other one is based on a Tibetan melody.
Gongchime
Gongchime
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Re: Writing Tutti\'s for orchestra
It doesn't really help to tell someone to listen to something if they haven't been educated in what to listen for. I need specific information translated into verbal language that can be transmitted to my brain via this forum. Me, you and the rest of the world have heard hundreds of tuttis in our life times. It doesn't mean we could even begin to write one.
Gongchime
It doesn't really help to tell someone to listen to something if they haven't been educated in what to listen for. I need specific information translated into verbal language that can be transmitted to my brain via this forum. Me, you and the rest of the world have heard hundreds of tuttis in our life times. It doesn't mean we could even begin to write one.
Gongchime
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Re: Writing Tutti\'s for orchestra
Here is a definition of tutti from wikipedia-
adv. & adj.
All. Used chiefly as a direction to indicate that all performers are to take part.
n. pl. tut·tis
1. An ensemble of musicians, in contrast to a solist or group of solists, in a concerto.
2. A passage of ensemble music intended to be executed by all the performers simultaneously.
As for writing a tutti, I would think there would be lots of different ways, depending on the work...
Hope this helps in some way...
Here is a definition of tutti from wikipedia-
adv. & adj.
All. Used chiefly as a direction to indicate that all performers are to take part.
n. pl. tut·tis
1. An ensemble of musicians, in contrast to a solist or group of solists, in a concerto.
2. A passage of ensemble music intended to be executed by all the performers simultaneously.
As for writing a tutti, I would think there would be lots of different ways, depending on the work...
Hope this helps in some way...
hitsware
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Re: Writing Tutti\'s for orchestra
http://home.comcast.net/~jhyamamoto/blmd.mid
derivation of a tutti ........
http://home.comcast.net/~jhyamamoto/blmd.mid
derivation of a tutti ........
hitsware
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Re: Writing Tutti\'s for orchestra
http://home.comcast.net/~jhyamamoto/1blues1.mid
A way better example of deriving a 'tutti'
http://home.comcast.net/~jhyamamoto/1blues1.mid
A way better example of deriving a 'tutti'
Re: Writing Tutti\'s for orchestra
I am also all ears, this is exactly the kind of stuff i need to learn more about
I have the exact same problem with always getting my music too symmetrical or monotoned in one way or another.
I am also all ears, this is exactly the kind of stuff i need to learn more about
I have the exact same problem with always getting my music too symmetrical or monotoned in one way or another.