Resemblance

[Mat]

Can you hear it between these two excerpts?

 

[teddy]

I would have to agree there is a certain resembalance between the two pieces but certainly not the same piece, at least to my ear. What is the link Mat

teddy

 

[Alban Berg]

B seems 100 years older than A but indeed the melody sounds very similar.

Martin, not a connoisseur...just an amateur

 

[Mat]

The link is that both these excerpts come from symphonies. Different symphonies, of course.

B is ~40 years older than A.

Anyone care to guess what pieces we're talking about?

 

[Contratrombone64]

Top one is from Schuman's Spring Symphony (I think) and
Bottom one is from Beethoven's 2nd symphony

Never realised just how similar they are!!

 

[Mat]

You almost got it right, David. But the top one is Schumann's 4th, not 1st. Last movement, to be precise. As played by Cleveland Orchestra, conducted by George Szell. The bottom one comes from Beethoven's 2nd, indeed. Performed by Berlin Staatskapelle, conducted by Barenboim (you like these details, don't you, Colin? :cheers: ).

The similarity is striking. Wonder if it's purely coincidental...

 

[Contratrombone64]

Hey Mat, just listened again, yeah Schuman's fourth it is, wonderful.

As to the similarity - who can say? Beethoven had only been dead a relatively short time when this was composed BUT without the aid of CDs how often would Robert have heard his music? Liszt's arrangements for piano hadn't surfaced at that time.

 

[Mat]

Here's another one.

What piece does this excerpt come from and what does it sound like to you?

 

[Mat]

Okay, how about one more Beethoven-Schumann pair?

The first clip comes from the Leonore overture no. 3 (1806); followed by the beginnig of first movement of the piano concerto (1845) and the ending of second mvmnt by Schumann.