marcel dupre

[aat]

Hi everyone. I hope i can ask this question. If not, can the administrator remove this posting? I,am looking for sheet music from marcel dupre, Op.28, 79 chorals. Or from 9 chorales Op. 28. No.36 Nun danket alle Gott. This is only for studiing purposes. Thankx very much in advance.

Greetings Aat.

 

[rovikered]

Hi aat ! Welcome to the Forums.
If you are asking for information about available downloads of Dupre's music, I'm afraid I can't help.
However, Dupre's music is published by Alphonse Leduc and I'm sure you'll easily locate what you want by contacting a good music supplier. If you are in the U.K. the distributor for all French publishers is U.M.P.
Hope this is of some help.
Best wishes.
rk

 

[Krummhorn]

Hi aat ...

There is also this source at Sheet Music Plus for Dupre's organ works.

None of Dupre's organ works will be in public domain until January, 2042.

 

[aat]

Well krummhorn...till 2042 i cant wait! I will order opus28 soon. thankx for the reply. Greetz Aat.

 

[dll927]

That's 71 years after he died. Who is holding up the works?

 

[acc]

@rovikered: Leduc published some of Dupré's works, but by no means all. Several works are published by Combre, Durand, Gray, and Salabert. In particular, the 79 Chorales aat was asking about were published by Gray.

@Krummhorn: Actually, the situation is even worse in France, where the 70-year-counter is "suspended" during the two World Wars, which means that in that country, Dupré will not fall into the public domain until well into the 2050s. And which also means that Widor and Vierne are still not in the public domain today, although they are in most other countries in the world.

 

[dll927]

They say that 50,000,000 Frenchmen can't be wrong. But they all speak French. And apparently they even count crooked.

Rather famously, they don't have words for the 10's. To say 83, you have to say 20 x 4 + 3 (vingt cattre trois).

 

[Krummhorn]

@Krummhorn: Actually, the situation is even worse in France, where the 70-year-counter is "suspended" during the two World Wars, which means that in that country, Dupré will not fall into the public domain until well into the 2050s. And which also means that Widor and Vierne are still not in the public domain today, although they are in most other countries in the world.

:tiphat: Thanks for that information, acc.
I had not known that about France before ... bummers having to wait about another 10 years for PD's on those two greats.

 

[rovikered]

@rovikered: Leduc published some of Dupré's works, but by no means all. Several works are published by Combre, Durand, Gray, and Salabert. In particular, the 79 Chorales aat was asking about were published by Gray.

Thanks for that information, acc. The scores I have of Dupre's works are all published by Leduc, so I didn't know of his other publishers.
Anyone living in the U.K. asking for French music and publishers only has to be told of U.M.P. the U.K. distributors of all the French publishers so for us the individual publisher is of secondary importance.
Best wishes.
rk

 

[acc]

They say that 50,000,000 Frenchmen can't be wrong. But they all speak French. And apparently they even count crooked.

Rather famously, they don't have words for the 10's. To say 83, you have to say 20 x 4 + 3 (vingt cattre trois).

Yes, this is indeed surprising, given that it is essentially the French who have invented decimal subdivisions for units of length and weight. (But then, that system has still not been adopted in some other countries that I know of, either.:grin

(Actually, it's quatre-vingt-trois, in that order. At least, they don't invert tens and units like the Germans.)

 

[acc]

:tiphat: Thanks for that information, acc.
I had not known that about France before ... bummers having to wait about another 10 years for PD's on those two greats.

Actually, that clause is only present in French copyright law. That explains how Carus and Bärenreiter were able to go for their new editions of Vierne's works — they just don't have the right to sell them to French customers.

 

[dll927]

From this I gather that the rest of us can get what the French can't.

Yes, the German counting system does seem backwards. 83 in German is drei und achtzig, or 'three and eighty'. But maybe they think we are the ones who are backwards.

 

[lupo9696]

there is just one oeuvre I found on the net for free download:
"Elévation", a very early work of Dupré.

It is included in a book called Maitres Contemporains de l'orgue edited by Mr. Joubert, 1911, Volume 1 (there are eight totally).

Download links (part 1 & 2):
https://urresearch.rochester.edu/fileDownloadForInstitutionalItem.action?itemId=4062&itemFileId=6027

https://urresearch.rochester.edu/fileDownloadForInstitutionalItem.action?itemId=4062&itemFileId=6028

Jürgen Wolf