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Duruflé - Chant Donné (Hommage à Jean Gallon)

OrganoPleno105

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Hi All!

So I've recently discovered this beautiful little Duruflé piece. However, I can't seem to track down the score anyway. I did some research and it seems like it was published in Soixant-quatre Lecons d'harmonie offertes en hommage a Jean Gallon. A collection of pieces published by Durand in honor of Jean Gallon. Does anybody know where I can find the score to this or have a copy they can scan to me?

Here's a link to the piece on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3b5cezoU_bU
 
Krummhorn

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It appears that this may have been a work of Messiaen ... from a collection of pieces dedicated to Jean Gallon. Apparently, Messiaen was in charge of the Chant Donné, and possibly co-authored by Casadesus, Dutilleaux and Duruflé.

The resource I checked (a translation from Japanese) claims that the piece was not written for an instrument, rather for 4 voice harmony, indeed published by Durand. What we are hearing could possibly be a vocal piece transcribed for organ by an unknown composer or editor.

Source:
1) Wikipedia list of composizioni di Olivier Messiaen
2) Works of Messiaen (in Japanese) translated (via Google) to English language

Kh :cool:
 

OrganoPleno105

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Yes it was written in open score, that I did find out, but failed to mention. Do you mean the collection may have been the work of Messiaen or the piece itself was? It was my understanding that the collection was composed of pieces by various students of Jean Gallon (Durufle among them).
 
Krummhorn

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In the first site, it appears that the collection was the work of Messiaen ... however, there were other contributors to the collection as a whole ... possibly they all corroborated on the collection pieces, but possibly one person had to take 'ownership' of the collection to eliminate confusion (?) ... I really don't know for sure - I'm just speculating.
 

OrganoPleno105

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Well, I contacted someone on YouTube who was playing it and asked if they could send me a copy. The emailed it to me right away! I have no idea where they got it though.
 

tanasay

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Chant Donné by Duruflé and a different one by Messiaen

These are available in this work:

Title: 64 Leçons d'harmonie offertes en hommage à Jean Gallon - Livre
Publisher: Durand

The book is available from Di-Arezzo and is Item: DURAN00012 in their catalog.

Link for Di-Arezzo:
http://www.di-arezzo.co.uk/accueil_cla.php?PHPSESSID=fe491c451f21b90aa7413a6a66b48126

Krummhorn said:
It appears that this may have been a work of Messiaen ... from a collection of pieces dedicated to Jean Gallon. Apparently, Messiaen was in charge of the Chant Donné, and possibly co-authored by Casadesus, Dutilleaux and Duruflé.

The resource I checked (a translation from Japanese) claims that the piece was not written for an instrument, rather for 4 voice harmony, indeed published by Durand. What we are hearing could possibly be a vocal piece transcribed for organ by an unknown composer or editor.

Source:
1) Wikipedia list of composizioni di Olivier Messiaen
2) Works of Messiaen (in Japanese) translated (via Google) to English language

Kh :cool:
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pcnd5584

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Krummhorn said:
It appears that this may have been a work of Messiaen ... from a collection of pieces dedicated to Jean Gallon. Apparently, Messiaen was in charge of the Chant Donné, and possibly co-authored by Casadesus, Dutilleaux and Duruflé.

The resource I checked (a translation from Japanese) claims that the piece was not written for an instrument, rather for 4 voice harmony, indeed published by Durand. What we are hearing could possibly be a vocal piece transcribed for organ by an unknown composer or editor.

Source:
1) Wikipedia list of composizioni di Olivier Messiaen
2) Works of Messiaen (in Japanese) translated (via Google) to English language

Kh :cool:
Click to expand...


I am not convinced; so much of the harmonic language and detail is akin to the style of Duruflé. Whilst many composers have shown an ability to write in pastiche style, this shows many trade-marks of the work of Duruflé - harmonic progressions, the movement of the inner parts, for example.

Whilst I do not doubt that Messiaen could write in a similar manner, there would be subtle differences in harmonic movement and the treatment of the part-writing. In the same manner that forensic handwriting experts are able to match (with a reasonable degree of certainty) apparently disparate writing samples, so I believe that it is possible to detect certain aspects of musical writing and assign them to a composer's recognisable and individual style.

In any case, I would certainly not trust material from a Japanese site, translated by Google; unless one were fluent in the construction and nuance of the original language, it would be impossible to verify the accuracy of the translation. I have observed this on a number of occasions with French - English translations on Google. Just look at some of the English translations from the French, in the table; they are both incomplete and inconsistent. Goodness knows how accurate they are from the Japanese. Whilst there is only one Japanese language (Nihongo), there are four forms in which it may be written. There are in excess of two thousand characters in Kanji alone, for example.
 
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russedav

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Do you know of any list of the composers and compositions of the Soixant-quatre Lecons d'harmonie offertes en hommage a Jean Gallon
Thanks.
Russ
 
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