Apple has ruined the word song

[Contratrombone64]

Anyone else amused by people refering to any piece of music as a song? I blame Apple for using "song" as its generic term for a track (of music). Why they just didn't use "track" is quite beyond me.

Point in case, a young person I know said that he was learning a new song. I said, what's the name of it? He said fantasy impromptu. I said: it's not a song, it's a piece. He just looked and me and said "whatever" (another term I hate).

 

[Corno Dolce]

CT64,

Apple has only a bit-part in the complicity - Since music education does not have the importance of e.g. Maths, and Writing, as it had when schools used the educational system of the Trivium and Quadrivium, the English speaking world is quite musically illiterate.

Cheers,

CD :tiphat::tiphat::tiphat::tiphat:

 

[JHC]

Although not sticking to music one thing (among many) that annoy me is the saying "ya know" repeated every two or three words ya know.

 

[Dorsetmike]

David, it's all the fault of them ex colonials on t'other side of the pond, dumbing down the laguage.

 

[teddy]

I object to being called MATE by shop assistants etc. I usually inform them that I am not their mate, but a customer, unless I am felling grumpy ( or any of the other dwarfs) in which case it gets a bit stronger.

teddy

 

[Dorsetmike]

Think my response to being called mate could be influenced by the age, looks and gender of the one calling me mate.

Responses would range from "yes please/where/when" to "you must be joking/get lost"

 

[Krummhorn]

I share your plight, David. On our sister forum, within the "Identify Music" section, people oft visit and post 'what is the name of this song', referring to something by Mozart or Handel. I will usually edit the post and change 'song' to 'piece'.

It is a gross misunderstanding of what constitutes a 'song' ... I think the radio and television media is to blame for most of this ... only those in higher education classes who take a Music Hit & Lit course will discover the large differences between songs and a music piece.

To add to teddy and Mike, the one word I hate being called is "hon" (short for honey) by the women gender while working in the charity shop here. I'm not their 'hon' ... :lol:.

As for the phrase Colin mentions, "ya know" ... I always reply with "no, I don't know!" Of course I then get the deer in the headlights stare like I'm from Pluto or something.

 

[Dorsetmike]

I'm surprised Wiki has actually got the definition correct, maybe an idea to refer misusers to it

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Song

The phrase I'm sometimes likely to come back at is when asked

"Will you bear with me a moment" I treat as though they say bare and say "OK what do we take off first"

 

[marval]

I agree, a song has words, a piece of music does not.

I get called all sorts of things when I am out, my pet hates are darling, love or baby.


Margaret

 

[Contratrombone64]

David, it's all the fault of them ex colonials on t'other side of the pond, dumbing down the laguage.

Funny, and the comment was made by an English lad.

 

[JHC]

Funny, and the comment was made by an English lad.

English lad ??? you mean the Pome Ba#&a$# :grin::grin:

 

[Contratrombone64]

@ JHC - yes indeed a pommy ba%^&$rd!

 

[teddy]

I do not mind being called ducks provided it is by a mature English lady, from the correct part of this country. I don't know where the expression originated from but I find it rather endearing

teddy

 

[JHC]

I do not mind being called ducks provided it is by a mature English lady, from the correct part of this country. I don't know where the expression originated from but I find it rather endearing

teddy

Mature ?? could be associated with cheese, so who is this cheesy lady, I presume a scot. the lad I mean, the cheese is obviously grotuious

 

[teddy]

I believe the expression ducks or ducky comes from Derbyshire, and was first used as a term of endearment as long ago as 1500 ad. Recently apparently the PC mob complained about the ladies in a canteen using the expression, and they were warned not to. The staff at that place of work immediately issued an ultimatum.. Keep calling us ducks or we all walk out. The management warning to the canteen ladies was withdrawn. DUCKS RULE!

teddy

 

[JHC]

Well I'm blowed, a good story

 

[teddy]

Just shows the power of ducks

teddy

 

[Krummhorn]

So, how can we help to get Apple and the rest of the world to change their thoughts on 'song' versus 'piece'?

Maybe the word song has become more synonymous with music because 'piece' is akin to describing a chunk of something, like rhubarb pie.

 

[teddy]

How about teaching all the children to speak correct English for a start.

teddy

 

[Krummhorn]

Now, there's a fantastic concept ... and with that, no more "textspeak" abbreviations.