A hundred years hence...

[EddieRUKiddingVare]

...What will "classical music" sounds like in one hundred years hence. Will people be listening to classical music? What will they consider "classical music"? Will Mozart still be enjoyed by many? Haydn? Cage? Beethoven?

What will be listen to and what will be forgotten?

What do you think?

 

[teddy]

I believe most of what we regard as classical music will still be around in a hundred years. Composers go in and out of fashion and always have done but most of it will survive. Jazz is a different kettle of fish but again the oldest music is still there and still being played and listened to so why would we reject it. There are still plenty of people who rebuild and build all the old instruments which help keep the older music around for us. I can never imagine Bach going out of fashion, at least not while I am around

teddy

 

[EddieRUKiddingVare]

Good call, maybe there will be carbon fibre or something piano's and iridium flutes! with miles davis inspired symphonies,,,,,,,,

Which composer will be in fashion who knows?

 

[Corno Dolce]

Good call, maybe there will be carbon fibre or something piano's and iridium flutes! with miles davis inspired symphonies,,,,,,,,

Which composer will be in fashion who knows?

Bösendorfer of Vienna built a carbon-fiber "bodied" grand piano a decade ago...There are carbon-fiber Alpenhorns, cellos, double-basses, violas, violins and I've even seen a carbon-fiber sousaphone - Don't know how that would sound though...Oh yes, carbon-fiber has been used to build lots of musical instruments.

JSBach's music will live on in Eternity exactly because it is music that glorifies the Creator of us all...

 

[EddieRUKiddingVare]

^ Interesting, I knew carbon Fibre had been used for musical instruments but didn't not know anyone had done a piano yet......... think I'm safe with the iridium flutes thou but probably only just!

As for music living on the ethernity Edgard Varese, no doubt at all!

 

[teddy]

I agree CD. JS is the governer.

teddy

 

[EddieRUKiddingVare]

I see we have a Bach Quorum here lol

 

[Corno Dolce]

^ Interesting, I knew carbon Fibre had been used for musical instruments but didn't not know anyone had done a piano yet......... think I'm safe with the iridium flutes thou but probably only just!

As for music living on the ethernity Edgard Varese, no doubt at all!

Why stop at Iridium? A Tungsten Carbide flute would be an almost indestructible treat...

And, as for a Double-Bass...Build it with Lignum Vitae(densest, hardest, heaviest wood yet known...a brick size piece will weigh around 50 lbs) - It'll break your back if you try to lift it but the sound it'd make........

 

[EddieRUKiddingVare]

Why stop at Iridium? A Tungsten Carbide flute would be an almost indestructible treat...

And, as for a Double-Bass...Build it with Lignum Vitae(densest, hardest, heaviest wood yet known...a brick size piece will weigh around 50 lbs) - It'll break your back if you try to lift it but the sound it'd make........

Tungsten Carbide hey, interesting- so when your finished blowing it could double as an industrial cutting implement. Want to watch out for the sharp edges on the lips thou!

CD, you have some very good suggestions, I've never heard of Lignum Vitae, sounds like something with moss on it! But I want a guitar out of it.........

 

[teddy]

Of course there are other uses for the name Lignum Vitae.

teddy

 

[EddieRUKiddingVare]

Ah I see- looking it up it is the densest wood traded and is also calledt the tree of life! and also called pockholz I see.

In Australia, Vitex lignum-vitae is known asYellow Hollywoodand is a totally different tree!

 

[Corno Dolce]

Tungsten Carbide hey, interesting- so when your finished blowing it could double as an industrial cutting implement. Want to watch out for the sharp edges on the lips thou!

CD, you have some very good suggestions, I've never heard of Lignum Vitae, sounds like something with moss on it! But I want a guitar out of it.........

The edges wouldn't have to be sharp, if the maker knew what they were doing...Oooh, a guitar out of Lignum Vitae...
Now that would also double as a truncheon:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

[JHC]

What gives a Stradivarius its unique sound any takers?

 

[Corno Dolce]

What gives a Stradivarius its unique sound any takers?

I would perceive that it has to do with the age of the wood, the type of wood, where that wood was harvested, the lacquer, the violin design that Stradivarius employed, the specific dimensions of all measurable surfaces=height, width, length...And so on...Then there is that infinite variable called human touch...how the violinist employs the instrument so that it becomes an extension of his/her Soul and Heart.............

Anyone else care to include other things not mentioned - Yes, I didn't mention the strings because they are changed quite often.............

Ahhh yes, I forgot about the bridge...what wood it is made of, where that wood came from, its dimensions, what subtle design differentials are used.............

 

[JHC]

Bl**dy heck comrade you have covered just about every part of the instrument so you are very near the mark, I asked this question because I read an article that gave another thing recently discovered so I will delay the answer in the hope that we will get some other (serious) replies.

 

[teddy]

I have read that it is possible using modern technology, to build a violin which sounds exactly like a Strad. My family got very excited about fifty years ago when we discovered that one of the old family violins had a Strad label in it. Needless to say it was not genuine.

teddy

 

[JHC]

I have read that it is possible using modern technology, to build a violin which sounds exactly like a Strad.

you are near the mark teddy

My family got very excited about fifty years ago when we discovered that one of the old family violins had a Strad label in it. Needless to say it was not genuine.

teddy

Yeh, I have one of those hanging on the wall a never ending thing of wonder to some

 

[JHC]

For some time it has been thought that the violin was made to imitate the human voice (Soprano) with multiple theories of how this was achieved from the varnish used to the position of the sound post plus the strings, bow and the air volume of the body and god knows what, the last interesting theory that I came across was that the instrument belly (top) was made asymmetrical in thickness achieved by scraping away very thin layers of wood and thus producing a lot more overtones (which of course it would) and this is what gives any instrument its unique sound, also of interest was a reported finding that in a blind A-B test musicians could not tell the difference between a Stradivarius and a normal violin of high quality?????

 

[Corno Dolce]

Kommisar Kolin,

I had also thought about asymmetrical thicknesses of both the inside-top lid and the inside-bottom lid and how that would affect the sound being produced - Imo it's definitely a variable to contend with.

 

[JHC]

Da Comrade, It is so obvious I don't know why it had not occurred to them sooner :grin: