A few of my tracks

Jeffrey Hall

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Hi all, I've been meaning to put up a few links to some things I've been working on lately. Hope you enjoy them. I've done everything here with Yamaha and Roland/Edirol synths, effects processors, and computer audio software (Cakewalk Sonar 4).

My original works are all ragtime. Here's one, written for piano in 1995 and finally put together for a small rag orchestra in 2005:
Flag Rag [3:50, 3.5 MB]

Here are a few familiar organ works from the Romantic. I haven't tried to recreate "pure" organ performances, since those already exist in great quantity, but rather to orchestrate them in my own, hopefully pleasing, way.
Gigout: Toccata in B Minor [3:20, 3.1 MB]
Vierne: Chorale, from Symphony #2 [7:10, 6.6 MB]

For the baroque, well, here goes...just did this one last month. There was discussion about registering this piece in another thread. Here's how I hear the tempo and registration, though as above I have used non-organ patches to supplement the organ voices used. No doubt some will find it completely unsatisfying; there are evidently as many opinions about it as there are people who have heard it! I regard it as one of mankind's supreme creations.
Passacaglia & Fugue in C Minor, BWV 582 [14:19, 13.1 MB]

Feedback on any of these appreciated (don't worry about the whole bunch; it's almost 30 min of music :)).
 

Mobi

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Hi Jeffrey!
I listened to some of your tracks, Flag Rag and Toccata in B Minor.
Im not any kind of expert in this kind of music as I havent listened to it at all as a matter of fact, but here goes :)

I really enjoyed Flag Rag, it had a certain happiness in its sound, it reminded me of old movies and I could almost see Charlie Chaplin jumping around my screen . Its really well played and the song is written well too.
Sounds very lively and well mixed.

Toccata in B Minor sounds like a lot of finger work :/ This is very well played and I especially like how it starts a bit mysteriously and transforms into something more powerful towards the end. I like how it gives me a little spooky feeling and makes me think of something horrible that might be happening. Recording sounds awesome and realistic to my ear.

As I said, Im no expert, but atleast theres some feedback :)
I think Ill have to get some organ music and start listening more to it :D
 

Andrew Roussak

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Hi Jeffrey,

I've just listened to your music - here is a feedback. I chance to be a SONAR-user too, that's why;) .

Flag Rag - a really nice and funny piece, I really liked it. I guess a version for two pianos could be intereting as well ( no band - just two grand pianos ). At first I thought it was a bit too long ( 3,30 min is a pretty much time for a ragtime , I would say - you can be over with a Maple Leaf Rag of Joplin in a less than 2 min, especially when you you are in a hurry ), but the main theme of your piece is very nice, so that it doesn't sound boring, even being repeated that often.

Gigout - the organ patches are great and your fingerwork too ( played? programmed? ) . Doesn't sound like a middle-class home recording studio anyway, so that you think more of a big thing with a lot of pipes in a cathedral as of a PC when hearing to it. Sorry I am not acquainted with the original , so I can't tell anything about your orchestration.

Bach ( Passacaglia & Fugue in C Minor, BWV 582 ) - well, one of the greatest composers in a human history -and one of the greatest works of him. Your organ patches are amazing, about the other sounds used - you can for sure find the better orchestral samples nowadays ( EWQLSO, Sziedlacek, Garritan usw. ) . But it doesn't matter that much. The first 2 min of listening I still thought about it - and then I forgot all about the samples and just enjoyed the music. GREAT PERFORMED!!! I saved the piece on my PC. Thanks for it.

Many greetings,
Andrew
www.andrew-roussak.com
 

Jeffrey Hall

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Mobi and Andrew,

Many thanks for your replies, and pardon my tardy response; been away for a bit. I will try to "resurface" at this nice forum.

Thanks for your favorable comments on Flag Rag! I do tend to take Joplin at his word ("do not play this piece fast..."), and I usually take Maple Leaf at 3:00-3:30. Two minutes!...I don't think I could move my fingers that fast. By chance, just for fun last weekend, I uploaded a modestly orchestrated version of Maple Leaf; I played in the piano and overdubbed some bass and guitars. Check it out if you like.

The Gigout is 95% played (it's one of the easiest French toccatas). I did take the liberty of punching in some retakes to correct a few splats, and I corrected a few split notes in the MIDI before doing the audio capture, but otherwise the whole arranged track from initial performance to MP3 was a one-afternoon effort.

BWV 582 -- Andrew, yes, Garritan is probably next on my list of things to get for my studio. I've been quite happy with the piano and organ patches I have in my sound modules, and since I've mostly been doing keyboard works, I've been content with what I have. But I'm getting into orchestral stuff now, so I'll be looking for (and saving up for) some of these samples. However, as you say, I also enjoy the existing patches for what they are. You're most welcome re the Passacaglia, and I hope you continue to enjoy it!
 

Andrew Roussak

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Hi Jeffrey -

nice work again with MAPLE LEAF RAG! Sounds really funny and had put once again that wide :)..........:) smile on my face! I guess you are right concerning the speed - "...never play ragtime fast at any time!!!.. " - Scott Joplin , School of Ragtime. I have to admit I am almost unable to do that. The 2 min version is the last piece on the ELP's album Works Vol.2 ( rec. 1977 ). It is fully orchestrated , Emerson plays there an instrument which sounds a bit like clavicembalo - don't know exactly what it was. I believe I usually tend to play it a bit too fast as well - and I really liked your version as one can more clearly hear all the details of orchestration, chord progressions etc. I guess also ,it sounds more authentic anyway as when being played fast.
You have slightly altered the voicings in the last part, as I could hear ( in the turnaround bar of the repeat and somewhere else in the last 4 or so bars, not sure ) - for me ,it sounded unexpected and lovely . GOOD TASTE, MAN!!!

About GARRITAN and EWQLSO - I like and use both of them, Sziedlacek is also great. Working with such samples is although little bit tricky. If you want to get a really authentic sound of orchestra, you must actually record each voice ( cello, viola etc. ) separately, that is - in fact you have to produce an orchestral score beforehand. If you just play it from keyboads, then it sounds like keyboards. I uploaded three of my pieces here and in the classical forum, all of them were recorded with the use of GARRITAN and EWQLSO. You may check if interested...;)

Best regards from Germany,
keep on rockin' ( swingin', raggin'.... )
Andrew
 

Krummhorn

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Hi Jeff,

Don't know how I missed this thread - my appologies :bawl: for such a tardy :smash: reply.

I had always taken most 'rags' at a pretty good clip especially when doing these at my organ concerts - guess it was due to the v-e-r-y dry acoustics of my particualr parish. I really enjoyed your relaxed tempo - I'll definetely revisit this when I do these rags in the future.

The Gigout & Bach were splendidly done as was the Vierne. Nicely orchestrated which gives a new appreciation for Vierne's music for me.
 

Jeffrey Hall

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Kh:

You hardly need apologize for tardy replies when I myself have been the same. :) Thanks for your comments re the Vierne. I love to play that one as an Easter prelude -- I've always thought it conveys the image of the whole morning nicely.

Andrew:

I am not familiar with EWQLSO or Sziedlacek, and will look at both of them. Thanks for the tip! On all my orchestrated tracks, I do build the whole score. I play everything in on the keyboards but as you say, it usually doesn't sound right when the various patches are applied. So there's a lot of work with the MIDI durations and velocities to try to make the individual tracks convincing. I also usually do the audio capture of every track separately for maximum flexibility in the mixdown. (For the Passacaglia & Fugue I had over 6 GB of audio before bouncing it all to the final track.)

Good ear on the Joplin! I mixed up the harmonies exactly where you noted. In the final four bars, it was to emphasize Joplin's use of chromatic lines. I noted this very thing on my Web site writeup -- here are the final four bars:

maple-leaf-2.jpg


Note the chromatic inner voice in blue. So on the repeat, I just altered the original bass line starting at the B flat to march it all the way up the chromatic scale to the tonic in the last bar. I'm delighted you heard it, since I think it worked well!
 
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