Someone help me identify this great Vivaldi piece.

edepot

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Ok, I don't know if it was mislabeled or what (is it truely vivaldi?), but according to the flyer for the concert, the Christmas Concert at this URL:

http://www.edepot.com/music.html

Shows song number 4 as Vivaldi: Concerto for Violin and Clarinet, 1st movement.
HOWEVER, Vivaldi only made 3 pieces of music for clarinet right?
RV556
RV559
RV560

I found them at wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ntonio_Vivaldi

However, when I hear all three of those pieces (on youtube) they sound nothing like the one at the URL above.
So is this a LONG lost Vivaldi clarinet piece? Was the description of the piece changed? (like substituting an instrument for the clarinet, but the original piece used another instrument?)

If someone knows what piece it is I would appreciate it. Preferably a RV number or a link describing the piece.

Also, if someone knows what are the subpieces in song 8) are, and what the Encore 1 and 2 songs are, as a bonus, I would like to know too. Thanks. Lastly, who wrote Song 11?
 
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edepot

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edepot said:
Ok, I don't know if it was mislabeled or what (is it truely vivaldi?), but according to the flyer for the concert, the Christmas Concert at this URL:

http://www.edepot.com/music.html

Shows song number 4 as Vivaldi: Concerto for Violin and Clarinet, 1st movement.
HOWEVER, Vivaldi only made 3 pieces of music for clarinet right?
RV556
RV559
RV560

I found them at wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...ntonio_Vivaldi

However, when I hear all three of those pieces (on youtube) they sound nothing like the one at the URL above.
So is this a LONG lost Vivaldi clarinet piece? Was the description of the piece changed? (like substituting an instrument for the clarinet, but the original piece used another instrument?)

If someone knows what piece it is I would appreciate it. Preferably a RV number or a link describing the piece.

Also, if someone knows what are the subpieces in song 8) are, and what the Encore 1 and 2 songs are, as a bonus, I would like to know too. Thanks. Lastly, who wrote Song 11?
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I found out from another forum.

Vivaldi: Concerto for Violin and strings, 1st movement, Continuo in B-Flat Major. (RV364 / RV364a)

Anyone identify these two pieces as well?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNOeG6FIKhQ#t=57m36s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNOeG6FIKhQ#t=01h00m57s

Is the following piece actually called "The Best Christmas Wishes"? If Yes, who wrote it?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNOeG6FIKhQ#t=45m52s

Also, can you rate the performance of the violin player here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNOeG6FIKhQ#t=24m06s

He is supposed to be some very good violinist (somewhat famous), but wanted opinions. Inflated? Or actually good?
 
Mat

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You're welcome.

It was originally written in the key of D major. But it can be transposed to any other key... The orchestra you linked to is playing the piece in F major. It's obviously an arrangement because the original score doesn't include neither the flutes nor the choir. It was written for three violins and basso continuo only.
 
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edepot

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Hmm... I'm getting conflicting answers. Can you double check that piece? Can you be sure it is F major? I got D Major, and G, but no consensus on what it is. If you check the whole concert, Song 3 is ALSO Pachelbel (Canon in D) and probably D major. So Encore 2, can you double check?
 

edepot

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Not to judge your expertise, but how do you determine that? Do you listen to a few chords? Or is the arrangement somehow gives it away?
 
Mat

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Yes, having perfect pitch, all I need to do to determine the key is to listen to a few of the opening chords. It's one of the basic abilities that every musician should have. Of course, that's not to say that a person without PP wouldn't be able to tell the key. They'd just need a reference point.
 
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edepot

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That is interesting. I was wondering. If a long time ago, the person who made the first instrument made C a few pitches lower or higher in frequency, and adjusted the rest of the keys to the same incremental spacing, would all songs today use these new frequencies? Is it an arbitrary placement of frequency? Or is there some sort of harmonic area where it is a golden mean that our ears will naturally graviate towards a certain pitch?

Can you judge the quality of this player? He is semi-famous, but would like your opinion is because he is just famous, or does he really play well? the violin guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNOeG6FIKhQ#t=24m06s
 
Mat

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edepot said:
Can you judge the quality of this player? He is semi-famous, but would like your opinion is because he is just famous, or does he really play well? the violin guy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNOeG6FIKhQ#t=24m06s
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His playing seems fine. Can't say I was amazed, though. It doesn't matter if he's famous, the question is wheter you like his playing or not.


Regulator note:
Off-topic discussion on perfect pitch has been moved here.
 
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